We kill 400,000 Coyotes per year.

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  1. Capn Awesome

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    Its not about the numbers killed by predators. None of those except wolves are predators to coyotes and the exact same principal holds true In national parks without wolves. There is less coyotes when we leave them alone.

    The more you kill, the more you get.

    In non national park areas man kills more Coyotes than all of those put together in the same per square mileage in national parks.

    The more you kill, the more you get.

    The science is crystal clear on the subject. That's how we can just keep slaughtering coyotes and end up with more and more.

    The more coyotes you kill, the more you get.
     
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    I was unaware of it until I listened to the podcast about it. So interesting, but it also makes perfect sense when you consider the spread of coyotes in the last century.

    I'm not sure how long we as humans have known this, I don't think all that long. Now that it is a known fact though, we need to find a different solution to coyotes. As long as we keep shooting them, we are going to keep getting more coyotes.

    Unfortunately I have my doubts that people will be so reasonable. Look at this thread. Even when the evidence was clearly presented (and of 150 years of it not working) people in this thread still think they can shoot their way out of the coyote problem.

    Not only does it not work, but it causes the spread of coyotes. Shooting coyotes is why we have so many of them. Remember:

    The more you shoot, the more you get.
     
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    I think shooting coyotes that cross the line...treading into urban areas is helpful...taking the more brave and dangerous out of the gene pool and putting the fear of humans in the rest. Some urban communities are having packs roam the streets. They can be taken care of.
     
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    Still just leads to mor

    Still just going to get you more coyotes. The more you shoot, the more you get.
     
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    No. It will push them out of urban areas. Coyotes stay where its easiest to live and get food. Loud noises, guns and seeing coyotes get shot will help them find greener pastures.
     
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    No. Its just not how coyotes function. What that is going to do, is cause all the female coyotes in the urban areas to produce more puppies and you'll have more coyotes there.

    When coyotes are shot, they don't react like you say. The local females go into heat and have super litters of coyotes. Up to 16 pups. So if you shoot coyotes in urban areas, you'll end up with more coyotes there. Coyotes are crazy omnivores too. Cities are full of food for them.

    Listen to the jre about coyotes that I linked and you'll discover why that strategy, the one that's been tried forever, will never work.
     
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    All of those predators kill coyotes.

    My Grandad went up to the northeastern Iowa goat prairies (bluffs, steep hills) after the spring warmup in the 1950's for several seasons to kill rattlesnakes. Work was short here and the bounty was good money there. Ammo being expensive they took them by hand, cut their heads off, and took the rattles in to get their money. There were a lot of snakers and in a few years the rattlers were hard to find and the money was gone. Government mission accomplished. Maybe do the same with coyotes nationally.
     
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    You aren't paying attention. The more coyotes you kill, the more you get. Read up on it.
     
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    It's the same with human beings. The more you kill, the more you get. Feed them with free stuff and it really accelerates the process.
     
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    It's true actually. They think that humans may have a few similarities to coyotes like that. When you think about it, the populations of humans with the least amount of violence on them, western europe, Japan etc has the lowest birthrates. Highest birthrates? Afghanistan, Uganda. When did the baby boom happen? Right after world war 2. Ghettos have higher birthrates than suburbs around the world. The more humans you kill, the more you get.
     
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    A lot of guys at work are deer hunters so they will talk about shooting coyotes because of all the deer they kill. I live in a rural area and I know they are around because I've seen their tracks in the snow, but never seen one around me. In fact, in the 20 years I've lived in PA I've only seen one walking across the street near Harrisburg. They are native to the mid west and adapt well to man's developments. They have spread into every county in the US. Man has wiped out most of their predators and developments provide easy pickings of small dogs, cats, and other domestic animals. I live in a wooded area and until a couple months ago only had adult Sheltie's at this home with most on the large size. I never worried about a single coyote messing with them, but I know in packs, they will lure a bigger dog off to get ganged up on. But, we picked up two Sheltie puppies who are four months old now so I scan the woods constantly looking for trouble. Unlike my hunting coworkers I didn't consider shooting one unless it started trouble, but now if I see one near the yard, it will be taken out.
     
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    There are wolf-coyote hybrids in particular, They are spreading east from an origin point in the American West. A woman killed by a pack of them in Nova Scotia may be the first recorded death from coyotes in North America
     

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