Weather station in Antarctica records high of 65, the continent's hottest temperature ever

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish I could remember which Red Senator it was but he made some of the exact same points I have made in speaking to congress - stating that we should be producing as much oil as we possibly can if we care about the environment.

    Blue starts with a mindless and idiotic premise - "We should not be using Fossil fuels" While this premise itself may be fine - the fact is that we will use 20 million barrels/day next year. Repeating "well lets just not use 20 million barrels a day" is mindless idiocy as it does not change this fact - it is denial of this fact - and denial of the environmental issues with respect to our oil usage and global oil usage.

    The question that needs to be addressed is - given that we will use 20 million barrels a day - and the rest of the world will use X - how do we limit the environmental danger.

    Warren was asked a question the other day in a town hall. "Should we make a law banning US exports of Fossil Fuels" Warren mostly evaded the question but did say "We need to stop using Fossil fuels" . Mindless stupidity.

    She did however mention that in addition to supporting the NGD - she also had a Blue Green Deal - Pollution of the Oceans. Great - but she did not give a single thought beyond that - something that might educate voters as to the nature of the problem - and how when we make decisions with respect to CO2 - we need to keep the pollution equation in mind.

    The US not exporting Fossil fuels will not change world oil consumption by one drop - not building pipelines will not change world oil consumption either. What both of these things will do however - is increase pollution. This is not some hairy fairy model making a prediction on the future - this is a demonstrable fact.
     
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    Where is it depleting?
     
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    LOL That still doesn't prove your flat earther dogma and I quote:And I already provided you the link - multiple times to back up the claim that approximately all of the accumulated CO2 over the last 150 years is man made.

    Did you think you would get away with another fake junk science claim Legal?

    And my link blew your 40% of human based CO2 still running around in the atmosphere BS completely but of course as always you ran from the facts . :)
     
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    The hypothesis that you do not exist as a human being must be falsifiable, if not I am left with you do not exist as a human being. The potential existence of such an artificial intelligence arouses some curiosity.

    My hypothesis that you do not exist as a human being would have to take into account that your statements and the argument I made from them are false.

    Testing an artificial intelligence, may be difficult in this environment, I would probably have to try to find out where the entity got its ideas. Who is the programmer, what other programs or entities exist; the questions are too time consuming.

    A Fundamental Baptist Madrassa might teach the Theory of Natural Selection, being forced by law to do so for accreditation, and obviously teach the Scientific method, but then claim the pots and cups and Ark of Genesis must be true because the bible tells us so. An artificial intelligence might have programming that it can’t break, it also may have a paper trail sort-of-speak where the same phrase arises exactly:

    “Into the Night”
    https://www.debatepolitics.com/beli...ot-believe-post1069613161.html#post1069613161

    That in and of itself is not proof that either “Into the Night” or “gfm7175” exist as human beings. My hypothesis might have to be changed and first I would have to determine if “Into the Night” and “gfm7175” are the same entity.
     
  5. MrTLegal

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    Asking you to provide a single reputable source for your interpretation of the laws is a focus on the what.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    The poles primarily. Its where Earths magnetic field allows the protons to enter our atmosphere. Basically everywhere you can see the Aura Borealis.

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  7. MrTLegal

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    Holy ****...

    Did you seriously just repeat the "protons are Hydrogen atoms" nonsense and now you are saying that techtonic plates are an example of "buckling the ocean floor?"

    What the actual?
     
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    When you start your post off with an "LOL" and then just repeat idiocy, I know that you know you lost.
     
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    Yes, Thats correct. Technically, theyre positively charged hydrogen ions, until they steal, or share an electron.
    It actually makes them more reactive.....

    We also get Helium Ions from the sun too, but thats just proven by science...

    Yes, The fissures between the techtonic plates have been getting bigger or deeper over millions of years, due to an ever increasing mass of water
     
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    I agree with you.

    Not sure why you felt your response to my initial thread was disagreement.

    My post was in response to a guy who claimed China and India were doing more about "global warming" than the US.

    Which, of course, is so laughably idiotic, that the only appropriate response was to rub his nose in it.
     
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    When you run from your arguments its confirmed you lost. :)
     
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    I've heard that too.
     
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    Still here. Still stand by the same posts, data, conclusions, and opinions which you have yet to address - let alone dispute in any meaningful way.

    But I see you've dropped the LOL and replaced it with an emoji, so that's still a sign that you recognize you've lost.
     
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    Keep on running every time I ask you to prove your worthless flat earther theory that man is the primary source of climate change.

    That is before you deny it again. :)

    Or your actual evidence that only humans have produced CO2 over the last 150 years. My personal favorite.

    I see you also couldn't challenge my scientists who shredded you and Obama's BS 97% theory when the so called studies were actually evaluated and not blindly accepted as dogma by flat earthers. All you could do was point to a post of yours where you had zero data and nothing but opinion to challenge my scientists. :)


    If you can, Chevy Chase will fulfill his promise to all flat earthers.

     
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    Post 643.

    I told you that humans supplied almost all of the accumulated or additional CO2 over the last 150 years. It is real simple to avoid misquoting me by including the bolded. Let's see if you can avoid the lie going forward.

    Post 643 and 994 (clarified with post 1016).

    Post 970 and 971.
     
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    India and China are still signatories to the Paris Climate Accord and the United States is the only country which is no longer a signatory? Yup, I still stand by my statement.
     
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    curious on an update, has this weather station gone back to sub zero?
     
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    There's a link to the station in the OP and while it is in spanish, google translate is useful.

    The answer to your question is yes...I think? It's currently 1 degree Celsius there right now apparently and I have no idea how to look at the last few weeks worth of measurements.
     
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    thanks.

    I'll put the kayaks back in the garage then
    /sarc
     
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    https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/earth20110816.html

    I had an astronomy program, way back around the time of the 8086 processor; I would use it before going out at night, and punch old dates or locations way back in the past. For my purposes, such a primitive program would work fine for me now. The curiosity at the time was whether a more sophisticated program, vastly more superior, we could input all that we know now, and it could be run in reverse to look for an anomaly in the past. At some point I assumed the program would hit something like Uranus, or what caused a massive tilt, all further data backwards might be corrupted and we might only know it when something we know could not happen happened.

    My first question about a Growing Earth Theory, especially involving increasing mass, would involve astrophysics; the effects of such a change on the Moon…orbit maybe...changes in earth's gravity… I am not an astrophysicist.

    Most of this interesting, but I would think irrelevant to climate changes in human time scales.
     
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    The moon is slowly moving away from earth I know that.

    Clearly something happened 65 million years ago, probably something with the sun, to produce more sun spots, asteroid strikes etc.

    The only thing I think is relevant is Earth is not a closed system. Its constantly adding to the number 1 green house gas, water vapor, aka clouds.
     
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    Yes, there will be a "hole" at either pole during their respective Winters. This happens because there is no sunlight there at the time.
     

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