well known homosexual director accused of assulting 15 year old boy in his mansion

That the comparison is to highlight the difference between boys and girls since it was part of the explanation when asked.

Its called accuracy. What do you have against accuracy?

And being against criminalizing sodomy? Did you forget that as well?

You really need to let facts govern your opinions not blind emotion and bigotry just because we don't agree on gay marriage.

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It does indeed.

 

Let me help you with this complicated situation.

The OP title is "well known homosexual director accused of assulting 15 year old boy in his mansion"

And in the OP, he compared that to Harvey Milk.

I pointed out that this reminded me much more of that other well known director accused- and convicted of assaulting an underage minor in his mansion- Roman Polansky.

If the OP only wanted to speak about the actual accusation and not other cases, then he should have limited his OP to the case.

 

So to you the only significant issues are the private parts of the victims? And what were the different private parts- well Polansky's victim had a vagina. Singer's accuser does not.
Both were (allegedly) sodomized, both were underage, both by an older man, both by a well known director, both were plied with alcohol and drugs.

So to you that means there cases are not alike- but you compared this to Harvey Milk?

Lets compare cases again- shall we?
Singer: well known homosexual director accused of sodomizing 15 year old boy in his mansion after giving him drugs and alcohol
Polansky: well known heterosexual director accused of sodomizing 13 year old girl in his mansion after giving her drugs and alcohol
Milk: well known homosexual city supervisor not accused of having sex with a 16 year old boy.

You find the cases of Milk and Singer to be comparable- which is odd since the only similarity is that Milk was also a well known homosexual. Virtually nothing else was the same.

Just to recap:
Singer/Polansky similarities: well known- check- director- check- underage victim accused them of crime- check- sodomy- check- location of crime, mansion- check- alcohol and drugs involved- check.
Singer/Milk similarities: well known- check. Homosexual- check.

But you find the similarities between Singer and Milk to be compelling- not the similarities between Singer and Polansky. Since the only similarity between Singer and Milk is that they were well known homosexuals, it would seem that the only reason that you insist on the comparison is to emphasis the 'homosexual'.

So you think that sex crimes against under age minors should be treated differently because the sex organs are different between boys and girls?

See above- I fully understand that you are focused on focusing on the homosexual, but no, I don't understand why you think that two cases of well known directors accused of plying underage minors with alcohol and drugs and sodomizing them in their mansion is completely different- because in one case the victim was a girl and in the other case the accuser is a boy.

And yeah- I am fine with ignoring and deleting lots of the dreck that you post. Just because you reply, doesn't mean you are actually responding.

 

It's not about accuracy, it's about trying to smear gay people. How do I know this? Because even though there are a ton of "heterosexual" pedophilia cases out there in the current news, you have not one time started a thread about those cases. NOT ONE TIME. Your concern is not for children being molested or "accuracy", your concern is smearing gay people. That is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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That seems to be exactly what he's saying. At least another poster here had the balls to admit that.

 

Again- assuming that the accuser is telling the truth, that is a very tragic story. But why would the LAPD and the FBI not pursue the case? While I would not be surprised if someone in the LAPD might be influenced by power or wealth, the FBI agent is part of child sex crimes unit, and that is far less likely. The assumption therefore is that there was not enough evidence to pursue a case- which again assuming the accuser is being truthful is another tragedy.

I can only speculate that the reason why there was enough evidence to prosecute Polansky but not Singer is because Polansky's victim's mother notified the police within 24 hours of the assaults.

 

Exactly, what's worse is if the "victim" is lying. Because Singer's reputation will never be the same if he is. The timing of this and the stories this guy is telling just aren't sitting well with me.

 

From this very thread- and not surprisingly you didn't argue with this post:

Thread: well known homosexual director accused of assulting 15 year old boy in his mansion
by sawyer

The elephant in the room is it is mostly gays that molest children.

So yes- there are idiots who argue that most pedophiles are gay.

Right here in this thread.

 

I suspect that women and girls who have been raped would disagree with you. I will say that the women that i know who were molested as girls have never gotten over it.

 

I agree- and would take that further- rape is rape.

Telling the majority of child rape victims- girls raped by men- that their rape is just not quite so bad as when boys are raped is wrong.

 

interesting

in your opinion, is providing accurate information only considered smearing when the story is about homosexuals? Or, is providing accurate information always smearing?

 

Did fifth just call you gay? I'm pretty sure he did. I thought you were straight.

 

'deviant sexual lifestyle'
Hmmm-
Deviant- departing from usual or accepted standards, esp. in social or sexual behavior.

http://www.nationalsexstudy.indiana.edu/graph.html
Lets pick one age group- among the 'deviant' behavior for 20-24 year olds:
9% of women received oral sex from other women.
9% of women gave oral sex to another woman
7% of men gave oral sex to another man
5% of men received anal sex from another man.

Now, I have seen you explain to us that if a man or woman has any homosexual sex, they are homosexuals. According to your standards, among 20-24 year old 9% of women and about 5% of men are 'gay'

Oh and 23% of women received anal sex from a man

Oral sex between men and women in the 20-24 age range is not a deviant behavior- but it is a deviant behavior in the 60-69 year old range.

 

Uhhhh no they're considered bisexual... which is, for the purpose of this argument, the exact same thing. They are people who are engaging in homosexual behavior.

BTW, it's not even debatable. Those people who engage in homosexual behavior are FAR more likely to molest a child than their heterosexual counterparts.

Also... the statistics are that the ENTIRETY of those who are homosexual, bisexual, transgender and lesbian is <5% of the total population. Yet they make up ~25% of the total child molestation in this country.

 

And that is just a made up number. On many levels.

http://www.drryanhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Between 69% and 96% of all child sex abuse victims are girls.
Those attackers would be called heterosexual pedophiles.
Therefore homosexual pedophiles are responsible for between 5% to 31% of all child molestation.

And Dr. Hall's distinguish carefully between homosexuals- who are attracted to adult men- and homosexual pedophiles- those who attack boys.

As Dr. Hall puts it- the higher ratio of homosexual pedophiles to the men who are attracted to adult men does not imply that homosexual men are more likely to molest children.

Just like the article you used to cite in your signature said.

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Except of course, those numbers are made up, in order to promote discrimination against homosexuals.

 

You hope someone goes to jail for an alleged crime?

 

I was thinking it was more like the posts of people who post nonsense against Jews in order to foment hatred of them.

 

I suppose because he was found innocent of all charges.

 

no Jeff

your "numbers" that you wish to believe are based on redefining the term homosexual. Let's explore this

sec says- an adult man fondling a little boy, or inserting his penis into a little boy is homosexual pedophilia/molestation

what say you?

 

Uh...no. I guess I have to post this over and over and over, since you won't do your own research. Please stop lying. I'm getting sick of it. Lies and misinformation can do a lot of harm.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...onflicts-with-catholic-leaders/1#.U1FR5JHrVY4

 

The second article Tex posted fills out the story more.

We cannot know whether this guy is telling the truth or not.

What we can do is treat his claim like we would treat any other claim.

He said that they filed complaints with the police and that the case was not pursued- if the crime happened then this is tragic. If it didn't happen, then the accusation is tragic.

He can't file suit in California- because of the statute of limitations- but apparently in Hawaii they had to file within 2 weeks- so the timing makes more sense.

If a criminal complaint was filed at the time, then that will come out during the law suit(if the law suit proceeds). The question is whether there is any evidence- and that is always a problem in cases like this. Think if she was a girl abused by a priest and coming forward years later- what standards would we hold her claims to?

So what is my position:
I will assume two contradictory positions:
a) I will assume for now that Singer's accuser may be telling the truth and
b) I will assume that Singer is innocent until he is proven guilty

I cannot assume or condemn either the accuser or Singer because I don't know what the truth is. So I will wait and see what happens.

 

And I'll tell you again that I'm not interested in a psychologist who has a SUBJECTIVE point of view on why the individual committed the crime... ESPECIALLY when they work for an organization that has an agenda to legitimize homosexuality and will use ANY excuse to attempt to deflect blame away from homosexuals.

Furthermore, if you are a heterosexual (BY DEFINITION that means you are not attracted to males) you are not simply going to want to sexually assault a male because the male is younger than you and is easier to have access to. That is patently absurd and ONLY a homosexual, or someone attempting to defend the homosexual agenda and the ungodly sickening statistics that indicate the level of child molestation in the homosexual community is at epidemic proportions, would make the claim that a male who is not sexually attracted to males wants to sexually assault a male because he's young and available.

At BEST that person could be considered a closet bisexual/homosexual.... but what he is NOT is a heterosexual. Period.

 

Please read more carefully.

If its true I hope he gets the max.

You couldn't even be bothered to read the OP?

 

Lets think about this example

A homeless black, Christian, veteran, homosexual robs a bank.

If the headline is "homosexual robs bank" then the title is both accurate and also intentionally incomplete- and therefore dishonest.

If a homeless black Christian veteran heterosexual robs a bank the next day and the headline is:

"Black man robs bank", and doesnt' mention heterosexual,

then we might start wondering if the 'accurate' information is being used to smear specific groups.

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LOL.....I don't think he did- I didn't notice if he did.

It has happened before- I always assume that they imagine from my fabulous writing style that I must be extremely good looking and well dressed, and therefore gay.

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No, sorry, you are just making up numbers again.

 

http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.e...emographics-studies/gallup-lgbt-pop-feb-2013/

You want to try again there guy? And this time try to make yourself NOT look foolish.

 

Excellent- you almost have it.

A pedophile who molests little girls is a heterosexual pedophile
A pedophile who molests little boys is a homosexual pedophile.

Neither of those are related to whether a homosexual or heterosexual man will be a pedophile.

As your former signature line citation noted:

This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic[Gay] males have a greater propensity to offend against children.