Were the elections stolen from Trump?

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  1. Goomba

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    Your question is inherently flawed, because the “Dems” are not the main culprits here….
     
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    The "Biden was in the basement" rhetoric is insane bullcrap. Over half the country was holed up and the majority of
    Democrat voters (including Independents) took Covid much more seriously than Trump voters - they wouldn't have
    shown up to rally even if Biden had them. Add to that the anti-Trump vote (much like the anti-Hillary vote) and you
    have the perfect storm for Biden beating Trump. It's not magic or rocket science or cheating. It's a product of
    that moment in history.
     
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    Trump was caught red-handed with dead people voting for him
     
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    If drawing a crowd proves you're going to win an election, then Taylor Swift is President.

    It's asinine to use crowd size as an indicator when over half the country was taking Covid much more seriously than
    Trump supporters. Biden would have LOST votes from his base if he had been holding rallies like that in the
    middle of Pandemic that HIS voters took seriously.
     
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    You’re fixating too much on the physical dimension of the argument. Trump put in far more effort than Biden could ever dream of, indeed, the latter’s severe lack of effort made it seem as if he had it back in the bag from the very beginning….

    If person A doesn’t bother going to the classes and doing his homework, how could he possibly pass with flying colors? How could he possibly do better than the prodigies before him without even opening a book?
     
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    Because the anti-Trump vote was with him. Just as Trump won with the anti-Hillary vote. And the simple FACT that we were in a pandemic which Biden voters took much more seriously than Trump voters. Ain't rocket science, dude.
     
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    LOL. OK, Who are the main culprits?
     
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    Trump is quite the exemplar of "religiosity, tradition, and honor" do you really think those qualities make a person harder to manipulate? Consider the evangelical leaders who endorsed trump.
     
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    Excuse me??! Dead Americans are allowed to vote for Trump and the new Trump Party. Get on board will you!
     
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    The only relevant point you stated is the "anti-Trump" vote. The rationality of that vote is ludicrous in the first place; only a fool allows hate to dominate reason and logic in their decisions- and votes for a vegetable instead of a man. That in itself makes a frightening statement about the mentality behind such voters, and it should scare hell out of all of us. The hate wasn't spontaneous, or for that matter justified or related to competence- it was cultivated, created intentionally as a political weapon by seeding weak minds with unprincipled propaganda- much like fertilizing a weed patch. You didn't make a reasoned choice- you were had. Now, you have the result of that; a president that continues to make Trump look better everyday, and himself more like the worst president in history. Looks like that is what your vote has bought you, and you have no one to blame but yourself.
     
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    How is this not just another way of saying “Biden won because he got more votes that Trump”? Are you assuming that there were no “anti-Biden” votes in all this conjecture of yours?

    Is the pandemic an excuse for inadequacy? I guess we’ll find out….
     
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    How do you know? There was never an investigation into the 2020 election.
     
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    Even if they were, don’t you think that this reflects a sinister and potentially pervasive force, one that is detrimental to the brand as a whole?
     
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    If you can prove the false compliments exist, yes. But, you've only noted your own personal experience. How do you know that your experience is not the exception, instead of the rule?
     
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    Except there was.
     
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    There have been numerous recounts, audits and investigations.
     
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    Crowd size does matter.... Only a fool would think otherwise..

    We are bringing thousands of infected illegal invaders and shipping them right in to our American communities... so save your Covid stuff for someone else
     
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    A two week preliminary investigation into the 2020 to determine there's no need to investigate the 2020 isn't an investigation into the 2020...Heck, congress (and the FBI and the CIA) had about as much a dearth of evidence based on facts against the Trump Administration but went ahead with a 2+ year investigation.:roll:
     
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    Elections are run by the States they are conducted in...it's an important part of what Republicans use to call "States' Rights." If you want to federalize the President/Vice Presidential election...I have no problem with that...but you can't do it retroactively, so it wouldn't help Trump.
     
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    This is so much a side note to this thread but I'll bite. The state and county polling places can control and account for ballots they receive as long as states and counties can verify them. When voters can create their own ballots and send in their own ballots w/o the county and state being able to verify them, elections develop more a tendency for fraudulence.
     
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    I know of no state that doesn't have some type of verification system or that allows voters to create their own ballots. You've either been conned or are taking part in a con.
     
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    I can think of my own state that does no such thing as allow voters to create their own ballots. Besides when states allow voters to create their own ballots, all scrutiny of said ballots are nullified...States can only vouch for ballots they can independently verify.
     
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    So...you admit, your assumption was wrong?
     
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    Your assumption that all states allow voters to print ballots is wrong...I know about Oregon and Cali., for example. I'm saying a state can't vouch for the validity of a vote that is printed out by the voter and isn't verified by the state and county voting agency.
     
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