Western leaders consider tougher sanctions on Russia and Syria after gas attack

Russians can't possibly support Assad with his barrel bombs and gases. They can't support the wholesale slaughter. They must be aware of the huge Syrian refugee problem .....

 

Not just that but Crimea, DPR, Abkhazia, Ossetia!

 

So, you mean that Dagestan, NK republic AND Armenia - are all 'russian-occupied' territory? And that ossetins and abkhazians have no civil rights for self-identification? As well as citizens of Crimean republic and people in Donbass region?

Who else should be wiped off your plastic globe? Enlighten me.

 

Are the Russians sympathetic to the Syrian women, children and non combatants who are being murdered in Syria?

 

Same can be said for Dagestan, Chechnya, they tried for self identify, you recall what happened?

 

Yes, we are. This is one of reasons why I approve that my government insists on investigation of incident, instead of declaring a war on president Assad and his army.

 

Both are autonomous republics whithin the federation, with own electoral systems, own representatives in federational council and are de facto very rarely disturbed by federal government. War, that went in that region for years, only stopped when both sides found a compromise.

And as matter of fact, for rebuilding of the war damaged republics paid whole federation, with quite sensible amounts of money being put there, and they still enjoy relatively big portions of federal budgets, compared to other republics and oblasts.

 

Is there any actual evidence the Syrian gov't attacked its own people? Anything beyond "muh gubmint tol me if wUz like dat."

Anyone who outright believes what the US says at this point is a moron.

 

Can you persuade Assad to stop killing and leave Syria?

 

The Assads have a long history of brutal slaughter dating back to the 1970s.

 

Vlad the Invader has been at odds with the Free World, Turkey, Israel and the Sunni Arabs for quite some time now - I don't see how Assad's latest crime against humanity changes anything.

Putler certainly can support Assad (along with all the other disreputable thugs that the Russians and Soviets have always embraced) and I fully expect that he will. Unfortunately, this will probably wreck relations between Russia and the new administration but I have never labored under the delusion that they would be BFFs anyway.

So, what do you think of Trump and his strike, litwin? I told you it was just a matter of time before Trump and Putin crossed swords.

What's new is that America is no longer led by an appeasement-oriented weakling who has his nose shoved so far up Ali Khamenei's ass a proctologist couldn't pry him out.

It's a whole new ballgame, and if you saw the look on Lavrov's face when he met Tillerson it's obvious the Russkies realize that, too.

 

Me personally? Maybe, if I ever meet him. My government - may or may not be doing right thing with our military presence in Syria, launching strikes on foes of Assad and ISIL - our own people became a target of terrorist attack because of that. But while my government demands investigation, and delays the further violence - I agree with it. Furthermore - I would've insisted on cease fire in Syrian war, for while investigation goes. But sadly, I am not one who makes crucial decidions in that war. Yet, this particular time, around this particular incident, I agree with my government, 100%, when it says that it may have been staged, a sabotage, that it not normal for Assad to launch such attack, and that he supposed to not be posessing any chemical weapons at that point - and demands an investigation.

 

Usa and his whores want to impose sanctions then all of foreign holders of Russian debt must sell it at any price. This will trigger cost reduction of the ruble. The Minister of economic development believes that the ruble will drop to 68 rubles for dollar, but these are average figures. The peak value will be higher. The Minister advises to buy foreign currency to citizens and businesses, who need the currency. Now is a good price. Thank you Minister!))) I did as you suggest)))

 

No. they have executed people, yes, but they're no worse than any other brutal dictator that rides our lap and is out "ally" over there.

Sorry but it's BS. There's no proof the Assads did it. And only an idiot would believe they did given the context of where and when. It makes no sense. I've seen numerous Assad videos. He may not be the best guy, but he's not stupid. Those attacks don't match their history, they make NO SENSE, given Syria still has enemies in the region.

And didn't Syria give up all their chemical weapons? In 2013 I think? You know the time when we blamed Assad used chemical weapons against his people... oh wait, no.. IT WAS A LIE. The rebels got the chemical weapons from our allies, Saudi Arabia..

But somehow this is true? Even though gassing his own people was literally the ONLY thing that would have warranted such an action? Sorry, I'm not the most knowledgeable person ever but I'm not a total moron either. I think it's highly unlikely Assad did this.

 

How much does the US pay you?? Or is it a private entity?

Every regime change we've done over there is multiple times WORSE for the people! If they don't want a dictatorship then the people will handle it. Iraq and Libya are WAY WORSE OFF without Saddam and Ghaddafi.

 

The Assads are particularly brutal as dictators go.. and Assad is not .. was NOT on the verge of winning anything.

Saudi Arabia doesn't have chemical weapons. ... and the rebel forces and ISIS don't have planes to drop barrel bombs on Syrian neighborhoods.

Read up on Meher al Assad and Hafez Assad before you get even more off base.

 

I agree.. the US should NEVER have invaded Iraq.. but there was nothing we could do to keep Gaddafi in power short of a long occupation of a couple hundred thousand troops.

 

Keep telling yourself that.. I'm not the one advocating for an entire government to be overthrown. Many many more thousands will die because of idiots like you spewing stuff like this.

They said Saddam and Ghaddafi had mass graves. None were ever found. And the people were suffering as a result.

The people want Assad gone, I've spoken to several Syrian med students about it. But their society is progressive. Women's and religious rights and so forth. It's not as brutal as you think. But they do want him gone.

Go ahead, repeat history. I'm just sick and tired oftwo faced BS. The tumors here regurgitating that they despise Assad and it's a "humanitarian" thing to do, to remove him. And then when the aftermath hits, and women are raped and enslaved and an entire country loses its way and identity, these same tumors stay quiet.

It's absolutely disgusting. And I refuse to believe the nonsense reported anymore. Fact is, there are no facts Assad dropped those bombs, regardless of the propaganda you regurgitate and choose to believe.

 

I helped several Syrian med students from Aleppo get into US residency programs .. They were fine young women.

Yes. There is NOW proof that Assad dropped the gas bombs.

 

my guss you dont know what putler said about war in "Syria"...

 

What did Putin say?

Assad really made him look like an ass.

 

No. never said that. I had an opportunity to speak with them. That is all. Asked them about their country and gov't. It was in passing.

I asked them point blank, how bad is Assad? The gist is he's a typical ruling family guy. They want choice, want him gone, and outside of the typical execution of radical, he doesn't mass murder people. I've read reports in Europe that echo this. So they're mad he won't give up power, but no murder.

And it's interesting considering how progressive and wealthy the populace is huh. You'd expect poverty from such a brutal dictatorship... things don't add up. And when that happens, any non-idiot would be skeptical. The world is not as simple as "he bad..."

 

Yes. Margot is correct - the Assad's have a long history of brutal slaughter going back decades. Tu quoque fallacies won't make that and all the other human rights violations their regimes have committed over the years go away.

I'll also point out that this isn't the first time that people have stood up to the terrorist war criminal in Damascus...

 

i think it has nothing to do with Trump and Putler, you know your country is a democracy , Putler is a criminal thug , as i a wrote before it was just matter of time. after attack Trump and his family was shocked meanwhile Putler and his family tried to cover this crime



you know what Putler said today? "Obama was better then Trump" so crazy ...2 months ago they did this


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Meher does the mass murdering just like the father Hafez.

The Syrian lira was 47 to the dollar.. now its 530 lira to the dollar.