WH supports Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    The proposed law should be proved a life/health provision for woman or for fetus.
     
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    I doubt Repubs care about that "little" issue....
     
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    If you're going to make more children be born, how about making the world they have to live in suck less? That's the easiest way to reduce abortion.
     
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    But if the unborn child being aborted is female. which side is "minimizing the female voice" the side that wants to kill it or the side that wants to insure her voice is heard someday?
     
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    Good point.

    ...and if you're going to force women to give birth at least give them affordable health insurance that covers ALL costs and future costs of disabled or sick babies and NOT allow insurance companies to punish that child for the rest of it's life because it has a "pre-existing" condition...REPUBS are against all that...
     
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    who forced these women to get pregnant? Unless you are talking about rape cases. then this is just ridiculous in todays day and age with birth control and "alternative" sexual acts lol
     
  7. JakeStarkey

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    dbldrew, stop the hypocrisy. If you want children born, you want them born into a world where they have a chance to be the best they can be. It is called accountability for your side.
     
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    The courts are wrong.
     
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    I won't comment further on abortion, but yes - gun deaths are unusual, and I'm very pro 2nd, so you're preaching to the choir there. :)
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    Who cares? Why do you want to punish children for their mothers' sex lives?
     
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    :) That predictable quip didn't take long.....

    I never mentioned forcing women to get pregnant ...

    Birth control fails (even condoms) , it's not always safe and/or affordable....and Repubs keep trying to shut down clinics where BC IS safe and affordable AND accessible....and they back people who don't want health insurance to cover birth control.


    Now ,the important parts : NO one is obligated to use birth control.

    Women are free to have sex anytime and anywhere they want just like men.....and if an unwanted pregnancy occurs, they are free to have a legal medical procedure just like everyone else. :)




     
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    Yes, and guns deaths are "people"....People with rights are killed, in abortion no persons are killed
     
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    Yeah, such tactics, when concerning the left, should be done by comparing our policies with scary Russia. We know the left loves dictator countries with human rights issues lije NK so such a comparison isn't likely to be as effective.
     
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    ^ Why I don't do abortion threads. :neutral:
     
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    And New South Wales and Norfolk Island? What about there?

    Northern Territory? isn't it limited to 14 weeks?

    Queensland?

    Oh Bower, you left some very important things out:

    South Australia; restricted; Legal up to 28 weeks if two doctors agree that a woman’s physical and/or mental health endangered by pregnancy, or for serious foetal abnormality.

    Sad!
     
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    Wow - a video from 1999. Living in the past much? :roll:

    What do you have to say about all the "establishment' RINOs who are still behaving like Democrats?

    [​IMG]
     
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    The mother. Always.
     
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    :roflol:

    Sycophancy is FUN!!!

    So, what is a woman aborting at 20 weeks? A goat? A head of cabbage? A chunk of granite?

    I'm pro-choice and I am constantly amazed at the disingenuous statements some pro-choice people make. At 20 weeks you're killing a human being - try and be honest about it.
     
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    An abortion kills a human fetus . No one said it was anything else unless you listen to Anti-Choicers who insist it IS something else.


    It does NOT kill a person with rights.

    It is a legal medical procedure.

    It is not killing a born person with rights.
     
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    its all about personal responsibility. condoms are 99% effective, the morning after pill is 95% effective.. oral sex is 100% effective. the fact that there is almost 1 million abortions every year is ridiculous.

    Killing an unborn child because you are to dumb or lazy to be responsible enough to make sure you dont get pregnant is crazy..
     
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    Only in your bigoted opinion.

    If a woman wants her new husband to adopt the children with her ex's consent, she should be mandated to refund half of the child support.
     
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    There is no such legal fiction as an unborn child.

    Next?
     
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    Mandating a fetus to be born is dumb and lazy and immoral if the means necessary for preparing medically and lifestyle-wise and educationally are not provided by you.
     
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