What are your views on abortion?

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

    28 vote(s)
    50.9%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

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    14.5%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

    16 vote(s)
    29.1%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    3 vote(s)
    5.5%
  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Racist?? Where did you get THAT???

    Oh, wait! Are you suggesting that those who are poor aren't white?
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Is that really your view?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A woman sticking sperm inside her body is kind of like hiding a very expensive diamond that she knew was stolen, inside her body.
    (It has been done before)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes it is.

    Mathematically, the two are indistinguishable.
    If you have ever studied spatial mathematics.

    "Inside" and "outside"

    The point is, it is not a part of her body, even though it may be physically/within the space inside her body.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If a woman wants to be left alone, she has 2 choices:
    1. Don't get pregnant
    2. Don't kill the other life inside her

    actually a third choice very often
    3. Abort immediately after pregnancy first begins

    in cases where she's not continuously engaging in sex, there are special emergency measures she could take immediately after a sexual incident has transpired
     
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    I'm fine with this. You can work to convert others to your faith, study philosophy, etc. That's a fine idea.

    ALSO, you can work on reducing the number of abortions in similar ways.

    For example, you could find studies of why women abort. Armed with that infor, you could work to reduce the importance of those issues.

    For example, when women say they are convinced they won't be able to get the needed healthcare, one could work on ensuring that health care is available - like Planned Parenthood does, like strong support for state based health care does. When other issues show up, you could get your church or others to help solve those issues.

    But, NO. You demand that we use the federal government to use our judical system of enforcement to impose YOUR views on women - the majority of whom do NOT agree with you.

    Can you see the difference here?

    Why should we use our government to impose YOUR minority views on abortion??
     
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    You should be PROFOUNDLY embarrassed.

    A fetus is PART of a woman. Do you know what that means?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sadly a lot of it is simply about vanity, or emberassment about being pregnant... or a man is coercing her to abort
     
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    It's been pointed out over and over again how silly this argument is.

    I'm sorry, but you have to live with biology as it works today. You can't invent your own biology fantasy land.

    AND, I'd point out that Republicans are opposed to these measures as well as teaching women about these measures.
     
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    Cite please.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think they're more opposed to the "Here's a condom, now go out and use it" mentality that seems to be so prevelent in these teachings

    Or "Here's birth control pills, now you are certified to go out there and start doing it"
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What other reasons would there be?
    If she doesn't want to be a mother, there's adoption.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has different DNA from her. The mother's blood cells do not go into the fetus, but circulate through almost every other part of her body.

    Even if it is a part of her body, it still has rights separate from her. Due to potentiality.
    Just like it would be wrong to perform FGM on a fetus just because it is in the womb.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That she is "self-harming" when she gets an abortion?
     
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    Cite those rights.
     
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    No, but every pregnancy has the risk of death....I guess women dying is no big deal to you?



    More inane blather that has nothing to o with abortion....LOL, no wonder RvW is standing strong :nana:
     
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    The majority of slave owners to not agree with the idea of getting rid of slavery.
    It is mostly irrelevant what the other party thinks, we have to protect the rights of the child.


    Since when has morality been based on the percentage of people who hold one position rather than another.
     
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    Fine, then have it taken out, set on a shelf and let it grow itself !!:) :)
     
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    Likely that will end up being a circular argument, because then we have to argue which side the burden of proof should be on.
     
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    You do realize one of those options would be removing the woman's brain and using her consciousless shell of a body to gestate the fetus?
     
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    Let everyone keep in mind that kazenatsu believes women should die in pregnancy rather than have an abortion.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Fine, then have it taken out, set on a shelf and let it grow itself !!:) :)




    Watching those Sci-Fi fantasies again ??....that was totally bizarre comment...makes no sense as usual
     
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    I think you need to call it good. Your arguments aren't even making sense anymore.

    Hugs is like being inside?
    FGM on a fetus?
    Rights of a fetus?
    Self harming?
    Your comments on education.
    The idea that women abort out of embarassment
    Removing the woman's brain ????
    etc., etc., etc.

    I think you must be really tired.
     
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    Yup, the only one who matters :) :) The women have the POWER....and YOU don't :)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that answer seems silly, it was because your question was actually silly.
    I was just showing you where that type of logic of yours would go, if we extend it a little.
     
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