What better time to strip 20M of their healthcare than during a pandemic.

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  1. ronv

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    I don't know why, but I don't believe you.
     
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    That's what Biden is going to do.
     
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    I am guessing you have not had Obamacare.

    If you have O-Care:

    1. You can wind up with thousands plus of debt.

    2. Not completed treatment.

    My situation was such that My therapists wanted to continue so I could become better and if I want to get better have to pay for the therapy. I am not able to work, and cannot get medical treatment that I need unless I pay for it myself.

    Rename Obamacare to CHOPcare.
     
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    Except I was advocating a voluntary group, he is not. See the difference?
     
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    Not over yet. :)
     
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    You think Joe will favor a single national health care system or will he have one for whites and one for blacks? Perhaps he does not want a racial medical jungle after all..

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...ation-would-create-a-racial-jungle-2019-7?amp


    Honestly DNC, this is the best nominee you could find ? Such a golden opportunity with Trump on the ropes and you field a lying (Mandela etc..) senile (Gaff machine) pervy (lip kissing your 20 year old granddaughter) old man with a racist background (see above)...You had such better options..hell you basically fielded what you say Trump is!

    If Joe loses the DNC better be dismantled and rebuilt fully.
     
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    The ACA slowed the Rising cost of Healthcare

    It was meant to be a stepping stone to the overhaul of the United States Failed employer based system

    unfortunately the do nothing Republicans could not see a way to improve upon ( after Lengthy Failed attempts )

    now Trump is Stupidly making Healthcare a major point in the 2020 Election ( when 20 million have Lost Jobs )

    For Trump and the Republicans this will be another nail in their coffin
     
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    I read this late last night and found it very disconcerting.

    THIS proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump is truly EVIL. Only a maniacal IDIOT would try to do this right smack in the middle of a pandemic. What a freaking MORON!!! Any which way you cut it, he is a damn MORON. And of course, his minions regurgitate from the fountain of eternal stupidity and demonstrate not only their ignorance, but the banality of inhumanity.
     
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    Ever notice how liberals love to bold words to try and make them more “true” ?

    It has not failed, if it had you would not need to try and punch the point home with the bold nonsense.

    And 20 million are out of work because of the overreaction to C19. A over reaction driven by the left.
     
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    All Capital letters words are like bolded words, used by posters who know their point is not nearly as truthful as they portray so they resort to that teenage trickery to try and make it so.

    What does the pandemic have to do with it? Are people being denied treatment for C19 for insurance reasons?
     
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    "Sink or swim." "Social Darwinism (sort of has the same ring to it as "social justice")". "Pay your own way." "Everything I have I made!"
    Families don't function that way.
     
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    Matter of fact it's not. Most people added on to it would have qualified for medicaid regardless.
     
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    Not an overreaction ..........

    Trumps mishandling of the Virus has shuttered the economy and has killed over 124,000 Americans

    After 5 months of Trump denying the Virus is a problem. Creating misinformation by not wearing mask or social distancing

    Trump pushed the states prematurely to open and now Texas and Florida has been posting over 5,000 new cases
    daily
     
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    No one is having their healthcare taken from them, all they have to do is pay for it like the rest of us.
     
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    Trump is saying that it failed.

    If it were working he wouldn't be denying access to 20 million Americans.

    As for those out of work, only a fraction of those were ever covered by employer based plans, another clear indication that employment based insurance is not a successful solution First of all, it doesn't even necessarily exist, as many employers don't have to offer it. Second of all, if there is any gap in employment (such as because of the pandemic that is raging through America, normal rate of companies going out of business, etc.) then the corporate policy evaporates.

    And, your comment on denial of treatment is something that you need to answer if you are planning to end insurance for 20 million Americans. You can't just end their coverage and expect the issue to magically go away.

    If you are going to cancel their insurance, how do YOU think their healthecare will be paid?

    COVID19 connection?

    A hospital here sent a bill to someone who had survived hospitalization for COVID19. The bill was for over a million dollars by one or two hunderd thousand dollars.. (They knew it was purely a matter of making a point - they knew they weren't going to get paid that way.)

    So, you need to answer how working Amerians are going to pay a million bucks to stay alive. Or not.

    (No caps, no bold, ok?)
     
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    As you know, half of America has so little income that they pay no taxes. And, the portion of our population is usually not working jobs that include employment based coverage.

    In geneneral, wringing blood from a turnip is not successful.
     
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    The plan is plainly visible in Trump's electoral college votes. It never existed in any other sense.
     
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    Suggesting there is a plan for what would happen after dumping 20 million Americans from healthcare is just absolutely, 100% false.

    There is NO such plan. Period.

    Those people were given support through the ACA BECAUSE they can't afford our healthcare system as is currently designed.

    And, leaving them with no healthcare coverage can NOT be considered a "plan".
     
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    National healthcare.
     
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    And how was it driven by the Left? Are you saying ONLY Blue states shut down and that every Red state remained open business as usual having never shut down at all? Are all 20 million out of work all from Blue states? Just curious.
     
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    We've been told only certain lives matter. So what's the big deal with this unless it impacts the special people with special rights?

    You want to pay for people's health insurance? Then pay for it, no one is stopping you. Have the DNC take up a collection. Ask BLM to chip in. Don't give handouts to illegals. Don't send money to Palestine and other worthless places.
     
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    Yes it was driven by the left, socially, politically and from a media standpoint.
     
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    I notice you didn’t directing answer my questions. :D
     
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    Im not going to catch you up on three months of recent history.

    Bit here is a tidbit...remember when Trump wanted to reopen by Easter? Remember who freaked the hell out and went off the rails about it? The left..
     
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    The ACA was just a scheme to shift the payment burden for healthcare to the top 20% of wage earners. Most working Americans earning a middle classs wage and almost all self employed or small to mid size business owners who were even mildly successful got totally screwed. I want it gone yesterday.

    Not to mention Obamacare has effectively killed off competition in the healthcare marketplace. I used to be able to choose from 6 different companies in my area. Now its down to 1. Its crappy, expensive insurance and i have no choice but to buy it. Thanks Obama. Im glad you could destroy my health insurance so i could subsidize a bunch of too lazy or too dumb to work democrat voters with their free **** to get you a second term.
     
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