What do liberals have against Kavanaugh?

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Then you either have proof that she is lying or you don't actually care about the presumption of innocence.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, among other things.
     
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    They understand many of their cherished victories are un-Constitutional and fear they will be overturned when challenged.

    That much is crystal clear.
     
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    Likely how far he rates on the scale.
    Which scale? I don't know, Spooky posted a chart showing where each SC judge falls and there is only 1 further to the right than Kavenaugh. IMO.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    A constitutionalist? What is that exactly?
    Is that like a fundy christian, who takes the bible literally?
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I agree.
    Myself, I go with a living document.
    Else we end up like the Amish. Stuck in some old time, time frame.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    It's a tRUMPer way.
     
  8. Mac-7

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    We dont know what will happen next

    If the FBI can tear itself away from railroading donald trump they might accidently uncover something informative

    If so either Ford will catch a republican black robe,

    Or she will trap herself

    We’ll see

    But as the accuser the burden of proof is on ford

    and ties go to Kavanaugh
     
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    hudson1955 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I simply don't care. He has been a credible and well liked judge since becoming a lawyer. What happened in the 70s and early 80s doesn't concern me. I also was in h.s. and then college during this time. It was far different than today. And my two sons were in h.s. in the late 80s and girls virtually threw themselves at guys . I always told them not to talk bad about these girls as the boys were doing the same thing. And to stick up for the girls when they could. I don't believe all these NOW woman have to say, but, the judge should not loose the nomination on what MAY have happened in the 70s-early 80s, while a very young man in a very different time.
     
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    Because he's Overly qualified.Overly accomplished and Overly
    Fair and respected.Too much for Pig Scum democrats to handle
    let alone challenge.So they Go Back to their best Friend ... Smearing.
    Plus he might be Pro-Life friendly.
    Maybe even the fact he Likes Beer.Is not afraid to make that clear.
    Too American is he.Also an accomplished Jock at Georgetown Prep.
    Captain of his High School Basketball team and a Wide Receiver and
    Cornerback on that schools Football team.Also on the track team.
    Compare that to Unathletic Power mad control freaks like Senator
    Schumer and Richard Blumenthal.
    Plus this accomplished Beer drinker who is talented and very hard-working
    and also extremely Female accommodating.No one has had as many females
    as interns and staffers as this once Altar Boy and Boy Scout and also one
    who dedicates his weekends to help volunteer at Soup Kitchens.
    He's just too Good a human being.Or mensch.
    The Left can't stand that thought.Therefore the near imbecilic sadistic
    tendency to smear and destroy his character.
    It's what the Democrat Party has become.Especially under Obama.
     
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    He has been accused of multiple people of raping people and accused by other classmates of lying in his testimony and having a character that is a lot like what he is being accused of. And he doesn't want the FBI to look into it. He's toast. You guys got really bad luck with him, just find someone else and this time background check him properly.
     
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    This was well planned from the get-go. First a letter saying Ford wanted to remain anonymous. Then she says she was contacted by the press. Then she said she couldn't fly on a plane. Then she shows up and gives her story. She is either being played by the sleazy lawyers and the democrats or she is in on the planning. There will always be something the democrats will dig up and then request a delay. From the beginning the democrats have been in control. Ford had her say and she was treated fairly. You can't say that for Kavanaugh. More delays are not fair to Kavanaugh -- let's have a vote and put this behind up. Trump needs to stand up and say -- enough is enough. Vote!!!
     
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    I don't think they are afraid of what a conservative constitutionalist court will do. I think the progressives are afraid of what it will prevent them from being able to do.
     
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    You could save some space and just focus on one thing.

    He lives with the mother of his children and helps raise them.
     
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    I would suggest you all take a quick second and Google the history of Supreme Court nominations. It's hardly the first time a party has tried to delay until a more favorable congress or President was in session ( Hell, the Republicans JUST did that very thing a few years ago) - and there have been a number of nominees rejected on moral issues.

    This is actually business as usual for Court nominees, only difference is now it gets played over on the internet with a million "experts" chiming in.
     
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    I agree that someone very much like k will be confirmed
    So in that way it does not matter
    And the alleged actions were 30 some years ago... so that also does not matter
    But, IMO what does matter is honesty
    If k lies about this, then how credible is his response about anything else.... including roe v wade
    AND when I say lies about this, I do not just mean that which is unprovable.... ie what Ford alledges
    K has come out and said a lot of things.... things which many other people dispute

    For example.... it would not be surprising if he did get uncontrollably drunk as a youth
    I know that I myself did.... and I was not a heavy drinker, nor was I in a heavy drinking crowd
    Yet I had this experience
    But k denies this happened to him... he did not behave in this manner
    He says “I drank some beer, I enjoy beer, but was never out of control drunk”
    Ok
    Well what do others say?
    His roomate says he was a heavy drinker and was belligerent in those circumstances
    There are many people telling that story
    A story that contradicts the story that k tells of himself

    Well I can understand why k would want to spin a more flattering picture of his youth
    Probably most of us have embarrassing stories from our youth
    And most of us would understand if that was also true of k
    But truth is truth,... and it seems to me that k was deeply involved in a drinking culture
    And that he well might have done things that are embarrassing
    Things that he would now wish not to remember
    And perhaps he even might not remember
    But it seems very likely that he is lying
    Which IMO means he should not be confirmed

    Even though I doubt it will prevent the confirmation of a judge with a similar judicial philosophy
     
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    What you mean, "we", Kemosabe?
    The overwhelming majority don't give a damn about the Constitution. They're just afraid it will be ruled unconstitutional.
     
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    Why do you think it is only liberals who oppose Kavanaugh? Did you miss today's events. It was a Republican who forced the issue about a one week delay in the vote and an FBI investigation of the new allegations.

    I am a card-carrying Republican. To Trump Republicans, anyone who opposes Trump is a liberal. That is ludicrous.

    To me, Kavanaugh's guilt or innocence is immaterial. Here is why.

    Kavanaugh emulated Trump admirably. Like Trump at his solo press conference, Kavanaugh repeatedly interrupted the questioner when the questioner was a Democrat. Then he would do his best to avoid answering the question, rambling about how great a guy he was, how badly his reputation has been sullied, how he will never teach or coach again, how four people including someone named Keyser swear he is innocent. Over and over and over again, much like Trump.

    His opening statement was pure Trumpian. In an aggressive manner he accused the Democratic Senators on the Judiciary Committee of being part of a conspiracy to drag his name through the mud. Even if that were true, it is not something someone aspiring to be an impartial judge on the Supreme Court should say. Throughout the hearing, he was belligerent and aggressive, and not the least bit impartial or open minded.

    It was a pathetic performance from a man who wants to be a part of the most powerful court in the land. So pathetic that even if he were deemed innocent of all charges somehow in an "he said/she said" environment, he should not be confirmed. With the temperament he displayed at the hearing, there is no place for him on the Supreme Court.

    In a word, he lost it, several times.

    There is little doubt that Trump loved his performance. Picture this, one Trump in the Oval Office. Another one on the Supreme Court.

    Good God, no.
     
  19. Bridget

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    Because he got mad after being called a serial rapist with no evidence to support that claim except a clearly deranged woman with NO ONE who will corroborate her story? That is hilarious.

    Are you referring to Jeff Flake, the fake Republican?

    BTW I do not believe you are a Republican.
     
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    "Delay" ... "usual"? Dems "delay" by trying to label a man a sexual predator? I guess it's become the "usual" for Dems to level sexual misconduct allegation in the final week of confirmation ... since Thomas / Hill.
     
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    What do liberals have against Kavanaugh?
    Conservatism.
     
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    Kavanaugh was instrumental in finding out about Monica Lewinsky. Reference as to why Kavanaugh mentioned the name, "Clinton," in his opening comments on Thursday.
     
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    There is only one valid thing liberals have against Kavanaugh: he was nominated by Trump.
     
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    What is a "real Republican" in your mind. I just read his book Conscience of a Conservative, Flake sounded like a real conservative to me. So, what does a "real Republican" look like? I'm a registered Independent. What would I look like? Hint: I like Flake, Grassley, Sasse, Graham, and several Democrats. To me, Trump is a disgusting, ignorant, dirty, little man.
     
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    The left hates the very Idea of not being able to have the court available to legislate their version of morality. Kavanaugh an originalist is the very antithesis of that hence it really isn't about Kavanaugh, for they would equally savage any other like minded individual, it is about political power.
     

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