What has Feminism taken away from you?

Says the man who repeatedly calls feminists - (of which I am one) -- 'Nazis'.

Hypocrisy knows no bounds, it seems.

And the continual droning of calling feminism a 'supremacist hate movement' is pretty lame.

Check yourself. O indignant one.

 

After I just addressed every single one of your accusations in your big long post-LOL

 

Yes...the term, 'feminazi,' is a term that's not only more than fair, it's more than accurate for several reasons.

The Nazis killed 13 million defenseless individuals. Since Roe -vs- Wade, 55 million defenseless individuals have been killed as a result of feminist's promotion of abortion. That makes feminists over 4 times worse than the Nazis.

Moreover, the Nazis and feminists both use anti-intellectualism to silence dissent.

Moreover, the Nazis and feminists both use anti-intellectualism in the form of, 'bogus science' to create legislation and laws citizens are forced to pay taxes to enforce.

ec cetera

 

If only you knew how ridiculous that sounds. Like, if I called people of your persuasion, 'pink blobs' (first thing that came into my mind, lol) then followed up by saying "...it's a term that's not only fair, but more than accurate... blah blah blah..."

Power to the humble word, LOL.

The derogatory nature of how some people bash feminists deserves a sociological study all on its own.

Calling feminists 'feminazis' is more than fair, according to you. According to you.

Not to me. I find it akin to abject nonsense. And 'histronics'. Oh, and offensive - but I figure that's the whole point of why these people use the term in the first place.

 

What a steaming turd...

 

Now you are just plain lying. Of course, making things up is also lying.

Remember this?

What did you make up?
Your mistake from the very first line no less is, yes. making something up, namely that I generalize all women as feminists. Followed immediately about the thing about "hate women"! Didnt take very long, did it?

You did not respond to any of it.

 

Quite a bit of projection there

You've accused me of being a misogynist multiple times because I'm a critic of feminism, but obviously I'm not a, 'misogynist because I'm a critic of feminism for the simple fact that every feminist is not a woman, and not every woman is a feminist. It's true that feminism is a female supremacist hate movement, but not every woman is a feminist and not every feminist is a woman.

Moreover I already did my best to address your bizarre statements in this post:

You've accused me of being a mysoginist multiple times for criticizing particularly the anti-intellectualism used by feminists in the form of, 'bogus science' to come to conclusions, and influence publice policy and create laws people are forced to pay taxes to enforce.

Lest you've forgotten,

Taikoo wrote:
“Why dont you just go ahead and lie on the couch, tell us what experience you had that
makes you a misogynist.

I know why I dont like or trust men. Have you developed any insights into your problem?”

 

Well, as a feminist, obviously it doesn't exist if it doesn't support your beliefs-right.

 

Anything but admit you made those things up.

 

You mean I wrote the posts myself just like you wrote this post yourself

 

Why?

Or is that the limit of your insight?

 

No, I mean you invented the things you said, no basis for them but your imagination.
You seem incapable of taking any responsibility for yourself in this regard.

 

Definitions

According to sociologist Allan G. Johnson, "misogyny is a cultural attitude of hatred for females because they are female." Johnson argues that:

"Misogyny .... is a central part of sexist prejudice and ideology and, as such, is an important basis for the oppression of females in male-dominated societies. Misogyny is manifested in many different ways, from jokes to pornography to violence to the self-contempt women may be taught to feel toward their own bodies."[3]

Michael Flood defines misogyny as the hatred of women, and notes:

"Though most common in men, misogyny also exists in and is practiced by women against other women or even themselves. Misogyny functions as an ideology or belief system that has accompanied patriarchal, or male-dominated societies for thousands of years and continues to place women in subordinate positions with limited access to power and decision making. [...] Aristotle contended that women exist as natural deformities or imperfect males [...] Ever since, women in Western cultures have internalised their role as societal scapegoats, influenced in the twenty-first century by multimedia objectification of women with its culturally sanctioned self-loathing and fixations on plastic surgery, anorexia and bulimia."[4]

The patronizing attitude, the stereotyping, and the whole bit of how women are lovable when they are nice and behave as men think they should is
misogyny. So is the seething hatred for "feminists".

 

So now you resort to making up baseless lies

...and ad hominen attacks are the last bastion of a position that cannot withstand scrutiny

 

That's interesting since in reality it's feminists who contribute to women becoming bulimic and anorexic

 

That's interesting since Aristotle lived a looooong time ago but according to 'A Feminist Dictionary,' edited by Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:

MALE:...represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants...the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.

MAN:...an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched...a contradictory baby-man...

 

Yes...I take responsibility for my posts. No one wrote them for me. I wrote them myself-LOL-

 

Are you saying I made up the study by Christa Hoff Sommers that exposed the bogus science used by feminists to come to conclusions that are used to affect public policy such as new legislation and laws people are forced to pay taxes to enforce???.

http://www.leaderu.com/real/ri9502/sommers.html

You're giving me a lot of credit for my imagination. In my wildest imagination, I could not come up with evidence this convincing to descredit feminism:

The ‘1 in 4 women have been raped myth’ comes from a study by Mary Koss. However this study has been largely discredited. For example ¾ of the women Koss reported as victims of rape reported in a follow up interview that they had not been raped.
You would think you would know if you had been raped wouldn’t you? Why did she count them as rape victims if they themselves did not believe they had been raped? Because they answered affirmative that they had sex after drinking alcohol, and Koss’s study consisted of college students, and college students tend to attend parties where they often drink and have sex. Often women are known to even drink and have sex with their boyfriends or husbands!!!

An excerpt from Sommer’s study discrediting the 1 in 4 women have been raped myth:

For Gilbert, the most serious indication that something was basically awry in the Ms./Koss study was that the majority of women she classified as having been raped did not believe they had been raped. Of those Koss counts as having been raped, only 27 percent thought they had been; 73 percent did not say that what happened to them was rape.

And The study by Sommers clearly shows the link between feminism and the ‘1 in 4 women have been raped myth’:

Of the rape studies by nongovernment groups, the two most frequently cited are the 1985 Ms. magazine report by Mary Koss and the 1992 National Women's Study by Dr. Dean Kilpatrick of the Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center at the Medical School of South Carolina. In 1982, Mary Koss, then a professor of psychology at Kent State University in Ohio, published an article on rape in which she expressed the orthodox gender feminist view that "rape represents an extreme behavior but one that is on a continuum with normal male behavior within the culture" (my emphasis).[6] Some well-placed feminist activists were impressed by her. As Koss tells it, she received a phone call out of the blue inviting her to lunch with Gloria Steinem.[7] For Koss, the lunch was a turning point. Ms. magazine had decided to do a national rape survey on college campuses, and Koss was chosen to direct it. Koss's findings would become the most frequently cited research on women's victimization, not so much by established scholars in the field of rape research as by journalists, politicians, and activists.

 

So if you criticize feminists use of, 'bogus science' that makes you a misogynist makes sense

This write up is just another example of feminists use of anti-intellectualism to silence dissent

 

Ryobi, do you have a repetition-compulsion that makes you post the same cut and pastes over and over? Perhaps you could limit posting the exact same cut and paste to say, 20 times? It clutters the place when you drone on repeating the exact same cut and paste over and over. You've done that all over various threads. It's really tedious.

As for your continual bashing of Mary Koss...

Mary Koss, PhD, a Regents' Professor is a feminist who is being attacked by the anti-feminists. O, big surprise.

http://publichealth.arizona.edu/directory/Mary-Koss

http://barrydeutsch.wordpress.com/c...iolence-related-issues/mary-koss-controversy/

http://amptoons.com/blog/2005/01/26/why-dont-they-give-up-on-attacking-koss-already/

 

What a ridiculous thing to say.

Your obsession with blaming feminists for everything under the sun tells us a lot about you and (*)(*)(*)(*) all about feminists.

 

Thanks for posting that link about misogyny, taikoo.

Well said, what you wrote above. We've heard it here about how 'he' wants the best for women... and feminism isn't in the woman's best interest. Why? Because 'he' said so. LOL!! I mean, that borders on hysterical funniness. 'He' knows what's best for a woman more than a woman who is in her very own skin knows what is best for her very own self. It takes a portion of arrogance and a great deal of ignorance to think that way.

The 'crusade' against feminism is evidenced in the flooding of threads with the same cut and pastes posted over and over by the one poster - the same ones that circulate all over the internet on anti-feminist sites and forums such as this one. They have a storehouse of it and repeat the same things over and over. But they clearly need some new material. This stuff they post is akin to limp lettuce - not 'crisp' at all.

 

Is this a bait thread?

 

Your own source says the 1 in 4 women have been raped statistic is not accurate

http://amptoons.com/blog/2004/12/07/the-1-in-4-distortion-where-did-it-come-from/

 

Again another excerpt from your very own source:

In a speech, self-described “conservative feminist” Christina Hoff Sommers said:


Let me turn to my second major objection to contemporary feminism: its reckless disregard for the truth. In doing research for my books, I looked carefully at some standard feminist claims about women and violence, depression, eating disorders, pay equity and education. What I found is that most –- not all —- but most of the victim statistics are, at best, misleading –- at worst, completely inaccurate. [...]

I partly agree with Sommers: Too many feminists — including those we rely on to get facts right (such as academics and published writers) — have been careless about fact-checking their claims. Critiquing a textbook on domestic violence, Sommers writes:


Zorza also informs readers that “Between 20 and 35 percent of women seeking medical care in emergency room in America are there because of domestic violence.” This claim is ubiquitous in the feminist canon. But is it false. There are two legitimate studies on emergency room admissions: one by the Bureau of Justice Statistics and another by the Centers for Disease Control. The results of both indicate that domestic violence is a serious problem, but that it is far down on the list of reasons women go to emergency rooms. Approximately one half of one percent of women in emergency rooms are there seeking treatment for injuries from domestic violence.

Sommers cites a second recent textbook, The Penguin Atlas Of Women In The World, which repeats the same error. And she’s right — it is an error. (Although, as I’ll show in a future post, Sommers’ counter-claims are just as false.)

I think this is the strongest of Sommers’ claims. Sommers is right to say that “false assertions, hyperbole and crying wolf undermine the credibility and effectiveness of feminism in general.” And many errors could easily be avoided if authors just checked primary sources — something that professional writers and academics should do routinely.

Within feminism, there’s sometimes too little skepticism regarding statistics and news stories which emphasize harms against women. We’ve created a culture which does a rotten job of self-correction.