What hatred?

In the thread about the trans kid that was beat to death several people mentioned "hate", "hatred" of trans people expressed by Republicans/those on the right. Since I didn't want to derail that thread so that it stays focused on that tragedy I'm going to ask the question here.

What hatred?

I've seen disbelief in the idea that a male can be a woman and visa versa, but that is not hatred. I've seen people believe that it is a mental illness, but that is not hatred. I've seen people not want a biological male in the women's bathrooms, but that is not hatred. I've seen people not want biological males compete in women's sports, but that is not hatred. And I've seen people not want children's breasts and penis's cut off, given puberty blockers, or hormone therapy, but that too is not hatred.

So, where exactly is the hatred?

It seems to me that using the terms "hate" or "hatred" is simply a way to dismiss, denigrate , and shame people that express one or more of the above. A way to attempt to control the narrative.

For those that express that its due to "hate" or "hatred" please explain why you think this, and give examples of actual hate expressed by Republicans/those on the right.

 

Well the good news is we will INSTANTLY have the news on what happened to this trans person but trans mass shooters manifestos will still take years to surface. At least we won't have to wait for the details.

 

I see hatred when someone is continually negative, critical, judgmental and angry towards a group of people who have little effect on them and are calling for actions to be taken against those people.

 

You must hate TF out of Conservatives...lol

 

You'll have to show evidence for "angry" also please. I say "also" because you never did give an example of "hatred".

As for the rest, none of those = hatred. Are there not things that you are continually negative about? Critical about? Judgmental towards? And are those things actually directed at the people? Or at actions? None of the examples I've given in the OP are about the people themselves for instance.

 

Too many posters on this board are incredibly anti-trans and it was on full display in that thread. Last year it was worse because way too many of those same people were passing off multiple mass shooting incidents as a “trans shooter problem,” while forgetting the vast, vast number of non trans shooters that happened previously.

Long story short, too many anti-trans posters and comments and too little being done about it.

 

Do you recognize a distinction between dislike, disapproval or disdain, and hatred?

 

Here's why the totalitarians play the Hate Card:



Or as you say, "control the narrative"...

 

None of that indicates actual hatred though. Partisan bias in regards to shootings maybe. But not hatred. And one can be "anti-<insert whatever here> and not feel any hatred. I'm anti-cooked cabbage (the smell of cooked cabbage literally makes me want to throw up), that doesn't mean I have a hatred for it. I'm anti-KKK, but that doesn't mean that I hate those that are in the KKK.

 

It doesn’t have to be overt hatred though, it can be little, subtle things that people say, or don’t say in some cases.

 

I don't know what thread that is, and I don't know the particular case, but being beaten to death because somebody is trans doesn't particularly spell out "love".

You might not be following the forum too closely. There are MANY threads highlighting the fact that somebody is gay, or trans, or... anything similar... when they kill somebody, or carry out a robbery. There are even at least two threads, that I have seen, highlighting mass shootings by gays or a trans. So, they might not believe that a sex operation makes you a woman, but they CERTAINLY believe that being gay makes you a murderer.

There are threads in which bigots accuse gay people or being pedophiles for the only reason that they are gay. Even many threads that accuse teachers of being pedophiles if they say the word "gay".

SOMETHING or SOMEBODY is instilling real hate in people who are not very educated. BLIND hate. Of the type that would drive violent people to beat up somebody just for being dressed "the wrong way".

We see who this "somebody" is in wingnut media like Breitbart and Fox, as well as propaganda shows like Tucker or InfoWars. They PROMOTE this hate.

 

Why do you think they beat up the trans kid?

 

If one is concerned with an issue they deal with the issue that is not hateful.
If one deals with the people by accusing them of having a mental illness (see your opening post) that is hateful.
If one assumes that someone is less of a human being than you because of their beliefs or personal choices, that is hateful.
If one spreads lies about those that do not accept what you believe that is hateful (childrens' breasts and penises are not being cut off.)

 

Who determines what comments are and are not hateful? More often than not, when someone says something the left doesn't like they'll call the comment or person making it a hater, bigot, racist, homophobe, islamophobe, misogynist, or whatever.

 

And we don't seem to be talking about the hatred of trannies who are using guns to kill people. We cover that up.

 

I can make a decent determination on the low key hateful comments at least just off that Oklahoma trans death thread alone….

 

Because those kids who did that are awful people, that should be obvious.

 

Am I correct in assuming this is about the non binary kid in Oklahoma that just died a day after a fight?

Assuming this is the instance in question, I understand that there was a fight involving several people.

Do we know that this fight occurred because she "they" was (were) non binary? Do we know the cause of death?

Or are you just making assumptions?

 

II don't think that hits the "hatred: mark. Lets say that one is negative, critical, and judgmental towards followers of religion. It may even make them angry that they indoctrinate children to believe what they see as nonsense. They call for actions against indoctrination by insisting that teachers to not use their influence to impose religion on children, or even ban things like Conversion Therapy.

It fits your description, but is that hate?

 

It's VERY easy. If they promote hate, they're hateful.

If, for example, you opened a thread about mass shooters and only listed those in which the shooter happens to be gay or trans, you would be promoting hate against gays and trans. Why else would anybody do that otherwise? Exactly the kind of hate that, when read by violent person, might lead them to beat up a trans kid until they die.

 

Pretty sure all that physical trauma caused her to die, but she had been bullied by other kids for months according to the article and this was just the final incident.

 

"Hate speech" is anything the left hates to hear.

They seem to mistake our refusal to participate in the delusion of pretending that a man can be a woman as hate.

 

So anytime someone opens a thread and they talk about the mass shooters being a white male then that means that they hate white males ?

 

Wow! Quite a positive testament for the left!

Yes, we DO hate to hear people promoting bigotry, racism, homophobia, misogyny, antisemitism, xenophobia... So you are correct.

 

Read the post you quoted again. But this time try to focus...