What I Personally Think of Abortion: A Non-Ambiguous Semi-Essay

Rather than make assumptions and cluster people into two camps I'd like to address what I personally believe and within the context of my faith and belief system.

Abortion is an abomination. It is a man-made, male-promoted "solution" contrived from jealousy and impotency. It is a breach of a sacred and eternal contract. It is a cutting of a tether. It is the destruction of a unique being with potential great or small. It is destruction of life at its worst because the being destroying that life played a part in its creation and should be a protector, nurturer, and mother to that nascent being.

We have lived with abortion so long that it is now "not a big deal", it is the removal of a "lump of motionless cells", it is the sucking out of a zygote, it is anything but a baby or even the hope of a baby.

All wonder, awe, and divine mystery is lost upon a generation that sees this as a political issue, instead of a personal issue--and it is personal. The mother and child bond is highly personal.

Republicans are quick to place the blame upon the mother alone--Democrats are quick to say there should be no blame at all.

Republicans feel good if they vote for someone who hates abortion (regardless of whether or not they accomplish anything towards its ban), Democrats will only vote for those who will support it. No politician right or left will touch this issue--Reagan didn't, Bush didn't, Obama surely won't.

Me, I think that this is a spiritual bane, a breaking and severing of a sacred hoop, and cannot be fixed by the force of a corrupt state or by posturing on the part of politicians. It can only be fixed when the idea of life is challenged, when all life is seen as sacred, when life in all its uniqueness is seen as the miracle that it is. The fact that we constantly hate on each other, find differences, bicker, squabble, and demonize pretty much lets me know that we are so far gone down the path of bitterness and hatred towards life itself.

We hate gays.
We hate Republicans.
We hate Democrats.
We hate blacks.
We hate Hispanics.
We hate.

Why shouldn't we hate ourselves--and a child is distinctly the continuance of our own being--enough to pluck it from us, unsexing us and making us cold creatures?

As someone who feels government is corrupt and evil, I believe like all things the answer is in a grassroots movement to promote and protect life, in nonaggression, in promoting accountability, and in caring for the poor in money and spirit, in caring for the brokenhearted, and in being personal. An impersonal state cant stop domestic violence, it can't stop addiction, laws don't prevent armed robbery or even murder, and they won't stop abortions.

Only a change of heart and a hopeful spirit can do this.

 

I can't even respond to this post. There's nothing else I can say. You've covered EVERYTHING.

 

I think you should be aborted right now for your thoughts on this matter!!!

Actually, brain activity does not start until ____ weeks. I don't really believe there is some preordained destiny or reason for that mass of cells. As destiny would have it, it was aborted. The mother never wanted or invited the cells to invade her private property.

If I were a lion I would eat the cubs and give the mother a good smacking.

 

Maybe you should eat some magic mushrooms and get a new perspective on why you should not eat the cubs...or something.

 

Maybe you should reconsider your superstitions. The magic mushroom knows what will happen before it happens, therefore that cub was meant to be my dinner.

 

If the cub was meant to be your dinner then there is no free will and we don't exist, we're just the imaginary friends of another being.

 

I had the free will to eat to that cub. It was where free will and destiny met in the form of a delicious dinner.

I'm just being a hardass.

 

For me, abortion is a personal, moral, and scientific issue. I could care less as to whether a government legislates on such matters. I would prefer if local, state, and federal authorities never even touched the issue, leaving it to civil society. Nevertheless, we live in a world where abortion and reproductive rights is highly politicized. However, what this does is relegate acts of compatibilistic free will to questions of legality and illegality. In doing so, it universalizes personal choice, morality, and science when these are all non-linear and complex factors. Henceforth, I agree with you, Zosiasmom, but I see little that we can do to limit the state in acting upon the issue.

 

No actually she didn't. She kinda glossed over the fact that she thinks nothing should be done to make abortion illegal and give the unborn the protection they deserve. If you read her post again, you'll see it under the rouge of good but useless intentions.

 

What an awful opinion to wish somebody was aborted. You're not a nice person.

 

What do you think we should do with criminals and murderers? Should they be put in prison or just let go since punishment does not prevent crime anyway?

 

Zosiasmom, we outlaw murder because it is the destruction of human life. You can't make a different rule for the fetus if you believe it is human life.

 

So eloquent. So articulate. So personal. It reads like poetry and is as profound and meaningful as any philosophy I have read.

Bravo.

 

What is your policy on RU-486? ...... Clearly no. Well I wouldn't advocate it at all really. I think pills are unhealthy. Birth control also. I think it's unnatural.

 

So you are against abortion in all cases with no exceptions? Even if it means a woman dies?

 

I agree with this.

 

Very eloquent and honest. It is hard to disagree with any of the points you make, and I certainly feel the way you do about most of them.

I just am not as definite about the "male-promoted solution."

And as much as I regret that abortions are a need that is unique to a woman based on her unique circumstances at the time she makes that (always) difficult decision, I stand by the right that women have and should continue to have, to make that decision, within the frame of the present law, which I think is an acceptable compromise.

I just wish no woman would ever have to be faced with that decision, but i cannot believe that ANYONE else has more right than she does to make such a decision. Not the government, not the Church, not the people, not even the sperm donor. . .

 

Useless intentions would be me sitting at home, doing nothing and think it sucks and argue on forums for the Great God Government to swoop down in a way it never has before even with the most conservative of presidents such as Reagan and Bush and make it go away. That would be useless considering that both you, I, and everyone else with half a brain knows this will never happen.

You may as well pray for God to put a cookie in your hand to eat. He won't. He'll tell you that you have hands and ingredients and to go make a cookie.

 

No man hath greater love than this than to lay down his life for his friends...


I would take a bullet for any neighborhood kid I grew up with, why wouldn't I for life that I created and my body nurtures? What is the purpose of this life anyway? As a spiritual being having a human experience I understand that what we do here and now carries over into our spiritual journey. In my belief system, this life is not about the accumulation of things, but of character and loved ones.

However, I confess to walking the fence between this world and the next.

 

You are under the highly false impression that laws stop people from doing things. Laws don't prevent murder, or else there would be no murders. Jesus said that the laws would be placed upon our hearts. It is not the fear of reprisal that stops you from smacking your wife when she gets in your face, it is your character. People without character and integrity are not stopped by laws.

I don't believe in government any longer. It hasn't done anything positive that I can see. It has the reverse Midas touch in that everything it touches seems to turn to (*)(*)(*)(*). What has the great War on Poverty cured? We have more people on welfare entitlements than ever before. What has the drug war cured? We have drug cartels making more money than ever, more drugs being conjured up each day to skirt the All Powerful Law.

I work in the law and I can tell you first hand criminals aren't thinking about being caught when they commit crimes.

 

You are under the highly false impression that laws stop people from doing things. Laws don't prevent murder, or else there would be no murders. Jesus said that the laws would be placed upon our hearts. It is not the fear of reprisal that stops you from smacking your wife when she gets in your face, it is your character. People without character and integrity are not stopped by laws.

I don't believe in government any longer. It hasn't done anything positive that I can see. It has the reverse Midas touch in that everything it touches seems to turn to (*)(*)(*)(*). What has the great War on Poverty cured? We have more people on welfare entitlements than ever before. What has the drug war cured? We have drug cartels making more money than ever, more drugs being conjured up each day to skirt the All Powerful Law.

I work in the law and I can tell you first hand criminals aren't thinking about being caught when they commit crimes.

 

I cannot imagine a society where women harm their reproductive system with pills and a certain percentage of the population will have serious issues as such.

As a result... Birth control pills should be illegal. Women should not just be popping pills.

Abortion should also be illegal, however RU-486 can be used in an emergency situation to kill the babie in the earliest stages.

Problems solved.

 

At some point a person probably crosses a line when terminating fetal life.

But while it is still a little tiny worm, it seems no more than a cancer inside the tunnel of love.

It is more criminal to use your vote to try to tell someone else what to do than it is to scrape a little worm out of your tunnel.

I know the pope in Rome disagrees, bless him. But he does not have a tunnel so he never needs to worry about little worms in it.

I know the other pseudo-Christian faith groups follow the pope on this issue as well, but their ministers are paid very well to get up at the podium and pontificate.

I also know that religious folk are not always the brightest bulbs in the chandelier either.

 

Civil law defines rules and boundaries for law abiding citizens. Without it life would be chaos and feuds all day long.

Criminal law locks up psycho's who were born mentally defective and who cannot abide by civil law.

Government prevents other nations and their dictators (China, North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan) from invading you and me.

Government also maintains peace and commerce on the high seas, and all across the land.

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

 

That sounds nice. You are like the guy who says drug users shouldn't exist because Tylonol is freely available. Or bad food doesn't exist because some rich people eat quality food.

YES. It is not the WONDERFUL things that government does which people have issue with. It's the HORRIBLE things.

As a person familiar with the things you mentioned. You know that a criminal cannot applaud himself by claiming a few good things. *You should listen to what other people think of your country*. The problems DO exist mate. The sooner you will recognize them the better your compassionate conservatism will be.