What if the Obstruction Was the Collusion?

"The analysis that follows is lengthy and takes a number of twists and turns before laying out what I think is the significance of the whole thing. Here’s the bottom line: I believe that between today’s New York Times story and some other earlier material I have been sifting through and thinking about, we might be in a position to revisit the relationship between the “collusion” and obstruction components of the Mueller investigation. Specifically, I now believe they are far more integrated with one another than I previously understood."

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-if-obstruction-was-collusion-new-york-timess-latest-bombshell
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This is an excellent read. Trumpers will dismiss it out of hand but for those of us who understand much of what gets discussed surrounding the Russia investigation are attempts to piece together the evidence (until Mueller issues his report) it does a good job of connecting seemingly disparate facts.

 

I haven't read it but is there also a case being made to keep Mueller's report from being read or made public?

 

Lots of what ifs and odd theories now that everything appears to be falling apart on this front

 

Barr's view on the matter is why he was picked to be AG.

 

Does anyone ever listen to Rachel Maddow. She goes through these convoluted explanations. X knew Y, Z knew Q, Q worked for P, P corresponded with M, therefore Z is guilty of A.

This sounds like that. They haven't proved collusion. They haven't proved obstruction. Therefore the obstruction is the collusion.

 

How do you know?

 

TOTAL BS

You can't have obstruction if there is no probable cause of a crime. The Special Counsel appointment was based on a counter intelligence investigation.

But there is probable cause that many of the Obama Administration actors were actively trying to pull off an overthrow of the newly elected president.

McCabe is pulling Comey and Rosenstein right into the fire.

 

McCabe basically admitted to starting an investigation on feelings. The sedition by a few un-elected bureaucrats may go down as one of America's worst things.

 

What if the bullfrog had wings? The problem with this particular what if, is that like all the others it is little more than speculation that is based on 1 part wishful thinking, one part hope, and three parts air which is to say, here's anther guy about to get his feelings hurt when Mueller produces a report sometime after Trump leaves office that says in essence other than spleen and invective and no small amount of distaste we got essentially nothing.

 

Nope. He presented his factual case to the Gang of 8 and no one including McConnell or Devin Nunes raised any objections.

 

From the article..........."Remember that the standards of predication are quite low. To open an investigation, the FBI doesn’t need proof of a crime, or even probable cause of criminal activity. It need only see evidence that “An activity constituting a federal crime or a threat to the national security has or may have occurred, is or may be occurring, or will or may occur and the investigation may obtain information relating to the activity or the involvement or role of an individual, group, or organization in such activity” (emphasis added)."

 

Except for the fact they had no evidence you might have something.

 

Yep, feelings.

 

Still clinging to the FBI, DOJ, the Obama administration, and elements of our intelligence community staging a coup as "Russia Russia Russia" eh?

Keep twisting that pretzel.

 

The same way you do.

 

The evidence they had was more than enough to open the investigation.

 

Hmm, the "WHAT IF" in the title of this thread is a dead giveaway. Lol

Even the dumbest libs are finally realizing that Mueller has nothing and they look like complete morons who were taken for a ride.

 

Which does not constitute prof that anything criminal ever actually happened. The founder of Steve Jackson Games was once investigated over a game scenario in which a bank robbery was being pulled off in a fictional town.

 

But I don't know......and never said I did. You on the other hand have unequivocally stated they (Mueller) do not possess proof of collusion/conspiracy.

 

The actual evidence suggests that the evidence they used was largely fabricated out of whole cloth due to personal animus.

 

What evidence? The unverified evidence that the Hillary campaign created?

Here is the problem with the FISA court.

Anderson says she personally signed off on the original application for a warrant to spy on former Trump campaign adviser #CarterPage without having read it.

 

You left out a significant amount of my original quote which is against the rules. I was pointing out your logic.

 

What if the collusion was the attenpt by the corrupt leadership of our intelligence community and allies in the upper Reaches of the DOJ to destroy the Trump Presidency.

 

Here is how the Mueller investigation works.

 

That is a commonly held, completely erroneous, belief among Trumpers.