What is white privilege?

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its less "white privilege" than a lack of privilege to non-whites.

    I, as a white person, am treated with a certain level of respect and decency that black folks are not.
     
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    That's a money issue not a race issue.

    Care to argue otherwise?
     
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    I haven't seen that.

    What I have seen is that white professionals have to be extra nice to black customers or they are complained about for imaginary slights.

    What whites are really privileged in is getting really bad sunburns at the beach and having blacks giggle about it.
     
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    White privilege:

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    Such as?
     
  5. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    'We're better because we're white' always struck me as the most idiotically infantile mindset you could imagine. It tends to be the tenet of those without much of a mind at all.
     
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    In this day and age it's blaming somebody else for your problems and calling people ugly names that leave that despair and take charge of their own lives.

    White privilege is an invention of people that don't know how or were corrupted by culture into believing they cannot succeed. Those that do succeed are called uncle Tom's. That alone should be a glaring point that there is a problem with the culture.

    If success means you have betrayed your culture, Than your culture detests success and brainwashes people into believing this.
     
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    When the OP stays among things....
    "In this day and age it's blaming somebody else for your problems and calling people ugly names that leave that despair and take charge of their own lives."


    Than it aint some "invention". That is white privilege.
    And you're just in denial.
     
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    According to the OP white sounding names got 50% more of a chance to be invited for job interviews.
    So when you see white professionals with white sounding names....
    there you go.
     
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    I don't deny that there is white privilege. Our culture doesn't demand that we remain loyal to it.

    We don't call people uncle Tom or sell out for succeeding in the world. I was privileged to have never had to live in such a self destructive culture. The privilege is that we aren't bound by racial solidarity. I'll be white no matter what.
     
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    Than don't call it an invention of people who failed because of bla bla bla into believing they cannot succeed.
    White privilege is real. And it makes black people not succeed as much or as easy as white people.


    But it gets applied anyways
     
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    Why? That's what it is.


    I still say it's an invention of people who don't want to take responsibility for themselves. And the culture that brings up black people causes them not to succeed. That culture despises success. To the point there is a dirty name to call somebody who has come out of it and succeeded.



    I am struggling to find a cultural phenomena among only white people that chastises people as betraing their race fire succeeding.
     
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    Really. Whenever I'm in a store, I never see black peoples treated any differently than me. Home Depot. Super Market, ect. All the same. At work no different. Actually black people at work are treated better. You wouldn't dare mess with diversity. Easy way to get instantly fired for racism. You have to walk on egg shells if anyone black starts underperforming. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be their supervisor. What a wood chipper that would be😊


    I will say I sometimes see some really loud, overweight black people with wild colored hair and ugly tattoos who lets face it, are pretty trashy looking. If they get treated different it has everything to do how they look not the color of their skin. There are white equivalents to that and I don't feel any sympathy if any of them don't earn respect.
     
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    That's what you would like most folks to believe.
     
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    In regards to difference in treatment, there is one thing I have noticed, and it's been going on for years. Wal-mart receipt checkers rarely stop me.
     
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    I'm not in Walmart very often but usually it's when I'm in my tennis gear carrying a few can of balls, so I'm not on the checklist radar😉.

    The only place that really checks receipts I go to is Costco and they check EVERYONE.

    I wonder if well dressed Black people get stopped more often than well dressed white people?
     
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    I'd bet they do, just being aware of my surroundings for the last nearly 50 years, that is one of the things I've seen. I've seen where in Germany, while stationed there back in the 80's, the black prostitutes would all be on the top floors, period, no exceptions. But nothing like that here in America.

    Like you said, here in the States, at Home Depot, Kroger, Apple Bees, I just don't see black people being treated differently than I am, unless of course they are being disruptive.
     
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    Since it is real, it means it's not some "believe".

    When people refuse to even invite others to come and do a solicitation on a job opening because their name doesn't sound white enough, than the people who refused are responsible for that one. And the black person with a black name is the victim of a hate crime. To claim it's the other war around, is rather sick.
     
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    Don't recall saying it was.


    I have never been invited to a solicitation. I'm way more of a victim.

    But wait I don't wait for invitations. I act like an uncle Tom and go get what I want. I just don't have to face the existential crisis of betraying my "race" because I don't owe them loyalty because if my skin color.

    Dance around it all you like the problem is with the culture
     
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    Do you know what white privilege really is?

    It's the increased odds of being born with intelligence and into a responsible two parent family that sacrifices for the well being of their children and instills into them self sufficiency and responsibility by example.

    That's the unspoken truth.
     
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    You did use the word "believe" a bunch of time. It aint a believe... it's a fact.

    irrelevant

    When you apply for a job and send your resume with your motivational letter, than you get an invitation or not.
    That's how things work in the grown up world.

    When people are denied for that invitation because their name is just not "white" enough... and according to the OP that happens A LOT,.. than black people with black names are being victimized by a bunch of racists who apply white privilege.

    Indeed. The problem lies with the culture of systematically discriminating black people on a daily basis. Just because them Jim Crow laws got tossed out 50 years ago, doesn't mean the centuries long culture of discriminating people suddenly disappeared. And white privilege is nothing else than using other words to label discrimination.
     
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    Nah, White Privilege is basically being handed the benefit of the doubt or getting off easy or away with things entirely solely for being white whereas minorities doing the same exact thing or even less don't get so lucky. Just ask the affluenza kid who got away with it on his first go-around.
     
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    "White Privilege" refers to a lack of invidious discrimination against whites in the social, economic, and political institutions of the United States. This is really a broaden category where WASP Male Supremacy in our social, economic, and political institutions existed from the founding of America and continues to exist today.

    So yes it does exist and is very evident in the United States today.

    Society does not need to be torn down but instead it needs to be built up to eliminate White (WASP) Male Supremacy in our social, economic, and political institutions. It's not about "exclusion" but instead about "inclusion" where the invidious discrimination is overcome.

    If "leftward" refers to "equality" then that would be accurate. The United States was founded upon the ideology that "All men are created equal" and reducing or eliminating "White Privilege" is about someday achieving that ideal in our social, economic, and political institutions.
     
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    Statistically you're dead on, but you're a racist for saying it:)
     
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    Equality of opportunity NOT result. Everyone has the same opportunities. With AA minorities have better opportunities. More scholarships. More funding. Just because the underperform on average doesn't mean it has anything to do with those who perform better.
     
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    What you are feeling when you hear the notion "white privilege" is what people who are in minority groups feel continually. You only have to deal with it when it is brought up, they are not that lucky.

    When a man walks into a room where there are mostly women, there is a female privilege. He is expected to put up with their bias against him and even to "roll with it". Now he gets the advantage of having lots of situations where this is not a problem for him. White privilege is the ease at being yourself in a group. There are lots of people who do not feel they can be at ease most of the time in their professional or wider social world.
     
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