What is wrong with American traditions

Northern Liberals freed the slaves and Southern Conservatives were against it.

 

You ignore the obvious. That opposition to slavery in the U.S. was largely driven by churches.

 

In the North, yes.

The support of slavery in the South was largely driven by their churches too. They claimed slavery was God ordained.

 

Point taken.

 

If so they live in the twilight zones. Only a fool could deny who built this nation and only a fool could deny who destroyed it by letting immoral libs and hypocrit conservatives take it over. Warmongers and profiteers rule over us for a long time.
I think ti is an evil in the air infecting most of us.

 

I'm serious and sane and I think it was better for all back then. Only a insane person would say anything else.

Blacks were not killing the hell out of each other and abandoning their young ; acting racist against their own women; women raised their own kids instead of some stranger in a nursery aka propagation house ; parents were not put into filthy old folks homes to be abused and drugged till dead; people had pride and didn't beg from others; etc,etc,etc, .

 

With respect, you can do any or all of this today, if you choose to. We have .. minus the church and the spanking.

 

That is true of my country, also. Left and right were not at war, other than on polling day. Even then, it wasn't overtly hostile .. more like gentle ribbing. Of course, this was back in the days when politics was focused on actual progress, not feelings. Before we were afflicted with First World Problemitis.

 

I'd just like to pitch in on this, if I may. GOOD parents will never be 'put into filthy old folks homes'. Doing the right thing must first come from parents, if children are to replicate it later in life. If you end up with adult kids who dump you when you get old and sick, you have failed them ... and this is the result of your failure. You failed them, they didn't fail you.

 

Sounds like another liberal ' blame the victim and defend the crime to me. It is my opinion of seeing it come down over last 7 decades. When streets in this nation were safe and nobody ever heard of a drive by or epidemic of rapes and crimes. 90% of all families had two parents not single moms and step fathers. Except the wave of new arriving immigrant mafia types and gangs in the north. We should watch who we let in.

 

The victim, in the case I proffered is the CHILD. The parent merely suffers the consequences of their own failings during the last years of their life. The child suffers the result of poor parenting FOR LIFE.

What you fail to add to your observations on declining culture over the past 70 years, is the dramatic decline in responsible parenting. You also fail to recognise that I'm agreeing with you. This terrible reluctance to parent responsibly is the reason old people are being dumped.

 

My point glad you agree. Children are not left so mommy can work and have a big wardrobe or car, plus many women now have no choice but to leave their babies because they kicked their men in the teeth and now they are alone. So kids hate their mothers rather than miss them.

 

You need to study more and preach less till you know more about the subject your debating.
Jesus never said to feed the lazy sinners who lived in sin and adultry by having kids out of marriage and refused to work. Jesus was talking about the sick, widows and orphans not Joe Schmuck the criminal fornicators.

 

You all have done a great job of that but not because you won but because we decided to allow you to infect the nation with divisions, VD and other STDs and violence. So guess your right your klan did take over and destroy all that was good and decent. And now we will all reap the whirlwinds of debachery.

 

Jesus was here first and foremost for sinners, according to the bible. That was the entire point. He also said, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. - Matthew 19:23-26

 

Yeah, there were definitely no STDs or violence in America pre-1960. No divisions either.

 

And bigots weren’t as opened

 

Of course there was but not promoted and advertised like today. Not so much divided though. Because somebody will always rule over others who are different in looks, culture or religion. America is now a nation like Babel. All fighting to rule over others.
If history has anything to do with it we are doomed. All of us because these who are growing in numbers have never been successful that s why they all lived in third world nations. Asians and Hindu may lead ok.
But all the others will lead back to the poverty stricken violent cultures they came from. All empires fall sooner or later American one just fell sooner.

 

What has bigotry got to do with historical and present day facts ? I don't control how people act.

 

Factually incorrect. Democrats waged an all out war against civil rights while they had a president named Johnson that told them he wanted to guarantee he had the black vote for the next 100 years. Still they fought him and fought him. Everett Dirksen a famous republican waged war against the democrats and at last he solved it so Johnson could sign the law.

If is in the congressional record for all to read.

 

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If his family makes themselves part of the administration they are fair game...

Trump is the King of personal attacks or did you turn a blind eye?

Trump has attacked America's Statesmen, Judges, Gold Star Family's, Veteran's, citizens, World Leaders, news people

yet you have a problem with him being attacked? Bring back Truth, Justice and the American Way !!

 

Yes.

 

These need a thread of their own. I could ask plenty of questions. Some of that, I don't understand. Some I do. Some I have had some experience with. I didn't know what was going on until some time in the early seventies. Earlier, I was somewhat sheltered and guided. So, from about 7 years old on, which would make it 1969, I started questioning.

Women were expected to do certain things. I didn't know that until I talked with my mother, as an adult. They were oppressed. I don't like that. Though, many loved being stay at home mom's and did a great job. They could not be replaced. Some hated it and their children suffered. I think there was an expectation from all or a vast majority of society to act and live with honor that isn't defined in the same manner today.

For instance, I don't really know what blacks were doing. I had neighbors who were black. The patriarch was a watchmaker/repairer. He was good. He worked from home and maybe with a jeweler. I don't know. He died young by today's standards, of a heart attack. His widow, daughter and son had it rough. The daughter left home early and the son eventually fought his way out of his situation to become a valuable member of society. They were very nice folks.

I don't know how black men can act racist against black women, unless they hate when they marry or date a white man. I know that used to be a huge no-no. One friend of mine told me their families would preach to them about why they can't find a good black man. So, I know it was true in the mid nineties.

There is no way to reason with love. Sometimes, we are attracted to folks of a different race, but they are still the human race. We all belong to that one. It would be better if we all had the same characteristics, then we wouldn't feel so protective. The world would not be as interesting and life would get stale quickly. We would not challenge ourselves to be better. Struggling is the stuff of life, after all. I hate to struggle or watch others struggle, but we can choose to help in our own way. That's when it is worthwhile. If we all have the same, there isn't much reason to be kind, but simple to do as is required.

I had a parent placed in a home and I'd rather not talk about it in detail, but I can agree with your assessment.

 

Before the sexual drug infected communist took over and infiltrated our places of education and took it from academics to political agendas black people were doing a lot better than they are today. I'd see the women walking down the street to church with their big hats on and all dressed up with their husbands ' also in nice hats and attire ' and kids. Very proud looking and climbing up the social ladder.
Then came the libs and liars. Along with them came drugs, violence ,divorce, division and racism. Integration was not welcomed by most blacks and they hated busing that came later.
If this is helping or progress than I'd like to know how?

 

Yeah, we only fought a violent civil war, but yeah clearly divisions are worse now...