What Is Wrong With The Type Of People Who Feel Sorry For Rapists & Murderers?

And there are people on the right speaking out against it...

 

I don't see that many rightwingers speaking out against it. Big Car Insurance and Big Oil and other corporate lobbying is the EPITOME of crony capitalism, yet rightists usually support such things.

I do not, by the way, associate rightwingers in any way shape or form with constitutionalists let alone "libertarians".

 

It doesn't matter what you think. Economically they are precisely that.

 

WOW. Did you REALLY just say that??

They might not support welfarism, but that's the ONLY similarity they have with "economic individualism". They also support The Big Police and Military State and Big Corporate Lobbying and Big Land Renting. I consider all three of those things to be HUGE restrictions of liberty, as a geoist-capitalist.

 

Rapists deserve few years in prison, and not even murderers deserve a cruel punishment.

It is perfectly reasonable and humane to feel sorry for a rapist or murderer if their rights are violated or the punishment is too harsh.

So you can stop pretending that there must be something wrong with these people.


Of course, the liberal extreme is also beyond my understanding. For example like when Breivik got 20 years in a comfortable cell.

 

Certain rapists/murderers should be tortured for YEARS STRAIGHT and thus basically sent through a literal living hell, then eaten alive by zoo animals.

 

Woah.

That was a beautiful statement.

 

I believe in unimaginable cruelty towards people who impose unimaginable cruelty on others. Reciprocity.

 

they also tried to redefine rape to fit their political agenda, crazy

 

With regards to violent rape, all one has to do is imagine their daughter/mother being put in that situation and if they're sane they'll come to your conclusion surely.

 

So a rapist should be raped?

I dont know, I think I rather would be raped and get it over with quickly than spend a few years in prison as a punishment.

 

You don't get to choose if you're a disgusting rapist, lucky we don't off you on the spot. They get long prison sentences AND raped repeatedly, as it should be.

 

ohhhhh but they won't. I've talked to many people that say we shouldn't give people the death penalty for any reason ever, no matter what they do, and when I try to give them the "imagine a loved one being murdered/raped etc." argument, they say "well I wouldn't want anyone violently or draconian-ly punished even then". I'm sure their vagina ass wouldn't, but that's just pathetic.

We reward people for doing good things, and the more good they do, the more they should be rewarded. The logical conclusion is that we PUNISH people for doing bad things, and the worse things they do, the worse the punishment. This means, eventually, death/torture for heinous-enough criminals.

 

How 'bout tortured with lighters and rusty dull knives and giant Asian Hornet wasps and electric shocks to your testicals every hour of every day for 10 years and then you being thrown into a vat filled 3 inches deep of oil, and then the oil being caught on fire, at the end of it? We should've done that to Timothy Mcvey or Jeffrey Dahmer.

 

Well, what can I say except that I am glad psychopaths like you are far from any position of influence. I strongly disagree.

Punishment must fit the crime, and few years in prison is certainly enough for rape.

 

What about murdering someone's loved one out of pure evil?

 

Death is the solution.

 

Death penalty by humane means at most.

Altough I do not support death penalty, but for financial reasons and wrong convictions, not because of some inherent deep injustice.

 

If someone is absolutely certainly the one that did a heinous enough crime, they should again, get agonizing incredibly long-lasting torture and then violently ended a few years later. THAT punishment fits certain sufficiently heinous crimes.

 

Do you support death penalty for battery?

 

Not in and of itself...

Murder, certain violent rape cases, all child rape cases, and certain other heinous crimes should equal the death penalty. But for these crimes I am a strong supporter of letting the victims choose the fate. If they still cant bring themselves to support capital punishment they can demand just prison time. If they choose the death penalty I also believe if they want they should be able to carry out the deed themselves for closure.

 

I can see how that could make sense for some rare extreme crimes by the principle of reciprocity. Not for ordinary rape, child rape or murder, tough.

But I dont subscribe to this principle o reciprocity, as I think a primary purpose of punishments is not retribution (because if a crime is wrong, then how could we justify inflicting the same on the criminal?), but protecting the society from the criminal. Prison is enough for that purpose.

There is an element of retribution, but it is secondary in nature.

 

This goes even beyond the harsh "eye for an eye" morality. Good luck justifying that by anything else than empty moral outrage.

My opinion is that you are no better than someone trying to justify murder.

 

What Is Wrong With The Type Of People Who Feel Sorry For Rapists & Murderers?

You probably mean they believe in a fair trial and oppose good ole American lynching. Intelligence and a sense of justice, in that case.

 

How so?....