What is your theory on why the USA has not been to the moon in the past 40 years?

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    No, I am not. I am responding to one of the internet's most prolific spammers.

    You don't get to be the spokesperson for other people. Not one single person has ever joined in on one of your spam threads and actually agreed with you.

    Why do you urge these viewers? Maybe you should urge them to look at the passage where the Chinese astronaut twirls the flag effortlessly in a vacuum, and ask them if they are moronic to think such a thing is even close to being possible in water.

    Enough with your spammed auto response. I don't use my imagination when watching this footage. In no field relevant to this activity are you even close to being competent. Yet you seem to think that your moronic claim is the only one that best explains what we are seeing.

    No it isn't. The cable floats leftwards.

    It has no buoyancy, it is in a vacuum subject to stresses from pressure change and a tendency to assume its shape memory.

    Circular reasoning and an inane reply.

    Nonsensical speculation. Rather than use steel cables, they used ones that floated! Ridiculous.

    There are no anomalies - this was filmed in space. The man who made the video says Apollo landed on the Moon. Your off topic spam sends your own credibility even further down the toilet.



    Please, once again, offer your totally ridiculous explanation for how a flag can rotate in a viscous medium without the fluid causing the fabric to billow outwards. You make some weird claim that the film speed has been altered - by what margin roughly, and why would this make one iota of difference.
     
  2. carloslebaron

    carloslebaron New Member

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    What it increases the doubt on the credibility of such a Moon landing, is that NASA announced some years ago, that the original films taken from the astronauts cameras were gone, because "a leak" in the storage room deteriorated the films.

    Sure, right...

    So valuable films of the great "step in humankind" were storage in a room that nobody monitors and were exposed to water leaks. Ha...just one piece of those films could be sold for millions of dollars, but NASA put them in a forgotten room...

    The films brought from "such Moon landings" could be analyzed by private hands to verify the authenticity of the film itself and the images inside... but such "a water leak" has stop this verification, right?

    No other video is valid to prove the Moon landing but the original films "taken by the astronauts".

    And someones are defending NASA even when we observe that NASA has destroyed those "original" films.

    What a world we live in....
     
  3. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    That is an incorrect claim. The backup telemetry and SSTV tapes were overwritten and only on Apollo 11. They are the only tapes from the entire record that did not survive and they are, as I said, backups.

    Please get your facts straight before elaborating. Your original claim was wrong.

    As could the Apollo 14,15,16,17 tapes. But please do explain how physically examining such tapes would verify their authenticity?

    It was the backup, the original transmissions were recorded many times over.

    A mad world of uninformed conspiracy theorists.
     
  4. CastleAndBeckett

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    I think some of the landings were faked. The first one on TV was probably faked. I think at least one of them was real though, and maybe a part of the real missions were faked because they don't want the public to know about all the ET alien bases on the moon, or the ET aliens that were observing them. I think some people have been going to/from the moon &/or mars &/or spacecraft &/or other planets, they use a stealthy spacecraft and/or they use some kind of 'stargate'. I learned all this from the internet.

    There was no internet in the 1970's. Now that there is the internet, they can't control the information anymore, and the truth would get out.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    The truth HAS gotten out,we went to the moon and walked upon it 6 times.


    NOTHING had to be 'faked'
     
  6. Scott

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    Sorry but the proof that it was all faked is crushing.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487

    The people here who say it was real also maintain that the Chinese spacewalk was real...
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=132&p=6317012&viewfull=1#post6317012

    ...and support Jay Windley's analysis of the dust-free sand issue...
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=135&p=6341973&viewfull=1#post6341973

    ...so they have no credibility. It's clear that they don't even believe their own arguments.
     
  7. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    You keep posting the SAME weak a**ed spam that you always do,claiming it's 'crushing',when it's barely featherweight scott/cosmored/fatfreddy88/david c

    The only peope we have no 'credibility' with is those like YOU,and YOURS are the arguments we can't believe...
     
  8. carloslebaron

    carloslebaron New Member

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    But, this is the point!

    To create them here!

    You won't discuss the Monn landings in the forums of science, because this is the place, and conspiracy theories can go even to the ridiculous or they can be sophisticated analysis with proven evidence.

    About your point, why not the analysis of the "original films"?

    How? Original films have their own marks caused by the original photo/video camera. Like you find the gun used to shoot a bullet by the different surface of the caliber of the gun, the trigger's impact mark, etc. etc; the same as well a camera has its own ID, it might be the clarity of images, the tendency to a color with more detail, making a microscopic scratch on the film, etc. etc.

    You analize the camera and the film together in order to prove the authenticity of one or both. The age of the film and how old is the chemical composition forming the images can be also verified.

    On the other hand, if the films are "gone" and you have only the transmitted videos and backups, then you have no evidence to be honored. Only the original films will acredit that the traveling to the Moon really happened. Recently the news announced of "the finding of videos transmitted from the Moon to Australia", etc. etc... nothing of that will validate anything, because the transmitter of those videos could have been any ground US station sending signals around the world.

    The cameras and films brought from the Moon and analyzed by private hands might finally solve this conspiracy theory.
     
  9. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Nothing is 'gone' NASA has tapes out the yingyang of the moon mission,in multiple redundancy......they may not have a whole lot of the 60's technology to inspect them on,however,but they have them.
     
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    If tapes and cameras used in the Moon still existing, these are the target to be analyzed.
     
  11. Jango

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    Since I doubt we learned everything we wanted to about the moon in the short amount of time our guys were up there, I suspect that we found something that both alarmed us and made a strong enough impression to stay away entirely. That, or they didn't have the money.
     
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    Going to the moon in 1969 was the technological equivalent of sailing to the New World in 1492. You might have noticed that of Columbus's three ships, only two of them returned.

    We were "inspired" to take that risk, spend those dollars and go to the moon by the cold war, not by any scientific pursuit. Once the Russians had been beaten, the real motivations for such an intensive effort were gone. We have been unwilling to fund a return since, as the American people generally feel that we've been there, done that.
     
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    They took the alternative approach: since 50 years they produce Lunar landscapes on Earth.
     
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    That is it in a nutshell.
     
  15. Scott

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    To the viewers who don't have time to look at the info linked to in post #35:

    Please don't be swayed by rhetoric. Please withhold judgement until you've had time to look at the info.
     
  18. LoneStrSt8

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    Your spam won't matter.....
     
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    That is because on the other side of the mountain or ocean there is something worth going to.

    There is nothing worth the cost and risk of going back to the moon.

    It is really that simple, if the Chinese go there good for them they get nothing for it.
     
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    ... So, anyway, we've been to the moon a lot since Apollo. We're there even now with the LRO. Other countries have a presence there as well.

    It's just a robotic presence. Why? Because that's a lot more practical and useful right now than putting people there again. Putting humans on the moon is wildly expensive and difficult. Putting a machine up there with a brain no more sophisticated than that of a consumer electronic and some custom controlling software is a far, far better option.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There is no proof they faked it.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yes the more they look the more the realize how foolish such claims are
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Why would they need to fake walking on the moon SIX times?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Well Scott/cosmored/fatfreddy88/david c......Why,if they faked the moon landing,did they feel the need to do it SIX times?

    I'm STILL waiting for your reply.
     
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    Technically, we no longer "have the technology" to reach the moon. A modern space shuttle is not designed for such a distance like the Apollo rockets were.
     
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    Because there is nothing there but rocks.
     

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