What makes a word terrible and/or acceptable.

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  1. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

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    For instance, Dick Gregory wrote his autobiography which sold over a million copies. Consider the following:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******:_An_Autobiography_by_Dick_Gregory
    ******: An Autobiography by Dick Gregory
    The autobiography of comedian and social activist Dick Gregory, co-authored with Robert Lipsyte, ****** was originally published in September 1964 by E...
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    It should be obvious, one of the words I am talking about. FYI, that's a helluva good read. Surely it should be OK to use the word in that context. Can anyone think of other contexts where the use of that word, one among many, would be acceptable. Also, is it possible to have a rational discussion regarding that word, and others like it, and the various ways in which they are used? Or will the mere suggestion that we deal with this word and words like it be enough, in and of itself, to get me permanently banned?

    Wow, the legitimate use of the word is forbidden? It is the title of Dick Gregory's autobiography, widely advertised at the time, and as I said above, one helluva read. Is this what we have come to?

    Does no one remember the 7 words you can't say on television?

    https://genius.com/George-carlin-the-seven-words-you-can-never-say-on-television-annotated
     
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    Whoever controls the narrative or social norms. Right now it’s an extreme minority of Leftists in very powerful positions.

    Heads of education. Control over dictionaries. Schools. Influencing the youth.

    Just look at how the term “grooming” has gone from a factual and accepted definition of a creepy act someone does, to a bad word like the N word. Huh? What moral individual would defend such an act?

    Not to mention the re-definition of “woman” and the acceptance of fabricated pronouns, entertaining mentally ill people and their fantasies. You can’t just change language at the whim of people who don’t grasp reality. But intellectuals, truly educated people
    And just clapping along like seals. Even scientists.

    Can’t use “master” anymore with real estate and electronics? It’s pure insanity.
     
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    How can you have a discussion about the historical uses of words if you can't say the words? Simply referring to it as the "N" word will eventually be lost on future generations having no idea of what you're talking about.

    I've always wondered why it's ok for one race being able to use the "N" word while another is forbidden to.
     
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    I think that part of the point I was aiming at is that once the 7 words were established as acceptable in concert and on cable, almost all of the negative crap around them kinda vanished. Is it at all possible that we could consign these racially and socially charged words to the trash bin of the once terrible in the same manner, to just, well, stupid?
     
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    Its based on what you are personally sensitive to. If your audience doesn't have any sensitivities, then there art any bad words. If you personally would ever feel sensitive to words used against you, then you should probably respect other peoples sensitivities.
     
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    Part of my point exactly. Here we are, 69 years post Brown vs Board of Education Topeka, Kansas and we still have not adequately dealt with this. WITH is the holdup? Why can we not get past that?
     
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    I personally find certain words unnecessary to use and choose to not use them. But I live in a world that doesn't share my same opinion and I find myself hearing those words often. Hearing them said doesn't trigger me emotionally at all. Nor would I make it an issue.
     
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    Controlling words is all a part of controlling the citizenry. It comes under the duty of the thought police.
     
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    There are far worse words. For example, "bruh". If you use the term "bruh" in your daily speech, you more than likely have the IQ of a couch cushion....
     
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    It's a useful wedge tool for politicians and the woke mob. As long as they control what is deemed appropriate those of us that don't get triggered by certain words are held hostages to their whims.
     
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    Every society has it's taboo words, and we've replaced the 7 words (among others) with all matter of racially or ethnically charged words with the "N" word being the king of the taboo words.

    Eventually this book will be taken out of all the libraries it's currently in because of fainting spells and so forth and you will require special permission to check it out from the vault.

    Until then, it's still available on Amazon.
     
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    The liberals decide.
     
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    What good is saying ‘N word’ when everyone knows what it stands for? It’s the same friggin thing. The way the hyper sensitive and woke left is rolling these days soon it will be offensive to say N word.

    The word in question has been around for five hundred years and has an interesting origin along with the various meanings of the word.

    The filter might block this but look up the word on Wiki.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/******
     
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    In short, cultural and social norms of the day. Keep in mind, the N-word was viewed as acceptable in the past, long ago past, but today it is not. Or take a look at the word gay. Its original use means happy. But if you show modern conservatives the title called "Gay Divorcee" most would think it is a homosexual film. So, in other words, to make the word that is unacceptable today but acceptable in the past, context is absolutely everything and most people do not use the word in its correct context when dealing with words that were acceptable in the past.
     
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    Nah, to simplistic, not to mention it smacks more than a little of jingoism and regurgitated Fox nonsense.
     
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    Woke mob? Are you aware of the etymology of woke? Is it a noun, a verb, or an adjective? Can you define the phrase "woke mob"? Assuming the existence of a "woke mob", is it a good thing or a bad thing and why or why not?
     
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    While I think saying the "N word" is partly because people do not want to offend others BUT I think a large part of it is people have been conditioned by society to not want to say it and find it offensive themselves. I have NEVER used the N word in my life as a adjective directed at another person but I have read books and text that uses the N word. I think it is like people in America using the "C Word". People find it offensive using the "C Word" particularly used as a derogatory adjective to directed at someone where as in the UK they do not seem to have a problem with it.
     
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    What I find strange by people complaining in this thread is we have gone through generations with certain words being heavily censored. There were a ton of curse words that people could not say on radio and television for close to a century. There are many words that you are taught as a child that you cannot say in school, church or anywhere. It seems strange that people that have lived through so many decades of word censorship are suddenly so outraged now.
     
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    :roflol: That's some funny ****!
     
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    Or it could be a way to show a little respect.
     
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    That's not it, when you think about how wokesters refer to people they hate.
     
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    I don't use the word. Why bring problems to myself? I also refrain from using other words. Words do have power, both positive and negative.
     
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    And if you refrain from using all pejoritives, then good. The average wokester doesn't do that.
     
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    Once they get past the hurdle of telling people what "They mean by using a term" is all downhill convincing the same people that they are whatever their "Masters" need them to believe they are :)
     
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    Oh bullshit. Take out the word "leftists" and put in the word gays, blacks, Jews, women, Republicans.

    Kanye take your medication.

    The only person in control of yourself is you. Stop creating conspiracies that reduce you to a salivating moron and think for yourself man. You want to use the word pee pee go ahead. I could care less.

    It doesn't matter what the word you use is. Any word, any phacking word, can be offensive or complementary. Its called context.

    Words are not obscene its the context in which they are used that might offend certain people.

    You have a choice, offend people or do not offend them. Any word will offend someone sooner or later.
     
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