What makes the Quran, better than Bible or Torah?

good fact

simply for a person to give for the good of others over themselves is practically divine, but not of god, but as a choice (love the gift of giving, then seek the good from it)

kind of like what darwin did

newton

confucius

etc etc etc

all the contributors give because they choose too

but god didnt give anyone the information, they have to seek it


kind of like, right now.............. if each want to know, they will seek to be fair and honest before misleading.


kind of godlike in itself to be responsible to yourself and all before typing a key


It is how i see Moses, he was raised from the river (per deut) and lived, learned and per se wrote torah, from learning the knowledge within the egyptian libraries (he was raised in the house of pharoah)

it is the only way a human being could have the lineages covering such a vast period of time, not to mention the wisdom (commands)

 

Not in this context. "Divinely" in this context means directly from God. Good deeds are not necessarily divinely inspired.

 

I agree that the Quran is more evolved

Long ago folks (especially the educated elites in power) realised that Fear could be used to control the "raging masses".

One of the best and most cost effective means to exert this control is religion or "Fear of God".

The King half God half man thing, was done by Egyptians and Sumerians, Divine right of Kings in the middle ages, Pontifex Maxximus by the Romans,
or the Pope or Imam's claiming to speak for God.

The Quran, on every second page and in vivid detail, reinforces the idea of the various punishments waiting for those that do not obey and conform.

Do this and suffer eternal fire, dont do that and be punished for eternity .. on and on .. page after page.

More evolved in the science of power and control and brainwashing.

 

Quran is the oppossite of the Bible, it is the parallel book, If the Bible say Isaac was the chosen the Quran say it is Ishmael, if the Bible say Eve was created from Adam's flesh, the Quran say no, if the Bible say Jesus is the Son of God the Quran say no, If the Quran say Mohammed is the greatest greater than Jesus the Bible say no, if the Bible say none violent the Quran say violence is a means etc. etc.

The Quran is a book about the Arabs, the Bible is about the Jews.

 

there is no such thing as 'divinely inspired' unless the choice is of a human being doing or causing the action (the gift)

The concept that some outside force is 'causing' the action is popppy cop

That belief is like claiming a child is born bad or that the devil made me do it; just stupid and a cop-out of the irresponsible.

 

great post.

Quran is evolved in many respects in the fashion you pointed out, i will agree but remember it is from the same foundations of judaism and christianity, in which they also put the fear of god as well, impose ideas that the 'person' is not responsible for their actions (ie.... born bad because of eve decieving adam or even 'the devol made you do it" and get exercised or baptized or even burned at the stake for being a witch etc...)

 

ie... perhaps language issues

perhaps they are talking about the same person...?

most know all man came from women

but i like the one about man coming from dust (torah) and in quran, mud (w/water)

Then the majority on the earth know jesus was not god or messiah. (heck even jesus said he wasn't (per bible))

the babble dont even talk about mohammed (it was created well before quran. Same with torah........

jesus said to bring a sword, not peace

and quran is more like the eye for an eye, scenario in many forms but is far more tollerant of other religions as long as personal responsibility is held be each person. They dont evengelize, they REQUIRE each to be respectful and responsible for their actions or stop the life from wasting oxygen

jews are arabs when comprehending they both are from the same blood lines, region and the egyptian foundations.

heck, palestine was run by egypt during anything the jews call an exodus (see amarna letters (tablets))

Ahkenatan was the FIRST of monotheism for the whole region (perhaps HE is moses)

 

Indeed ..

Constantine and most of the leaders of Christianity who came after were very evil. 1000 years of murder, persecution, rape, buggery, torture, genocide, and destruction of knowledge is the history of the church after Constantine.

Considering the vast majority of the NT was written by such folk cast a great shadow on what could even be attributed to Christ. Forgery was not only common.. it was the status quo in terms of justification of dogma.

The Quran was produced over 25 years for similar purpose. (Gabriel must have only given Muhammad a couple of words a day)

Islam means Submission - but to who ? Was Muhammad sure it was not the devil talking to him rather than Gabriel - Gods messenger ? Given the content of the Quran .. ...

 

It's again worth pointing out that the Qu'ran was made 600 years after Christ so no doubt they had the Old and New Testaments to work off.

The written Qu'ran itself- well, they assembled together the greatest scholars who knew the entire Qu'ran("the spoken word"). They all got together and sang in meter and someone wrote it all down to paper. At that point when satisfied, they destroyed all existing versions of the Qu'ran and printed an official version.

This is why the Qu'ran can be sang to meter- it was originally a spoken word.

I am not 100% on the Qu'ran. It's a wonderfully written book but then again any book "proofread" 10,000 times over can't help but be a very good book.

And I think the Qu'ran is a way of life for Middle-Easterners to live by, not neccesarially the world.

 

a fair post

many actually do/did recite the book.

it is pretty trippy but fact

 

LOL and what do you call the Quran?!?!

Quran is nothing but plagerized Tanakh and Gospel plus the uncannonized (*)(*)(*)(*) lol

 

the evolution from the previous generations literature. (that should be basic common sense)

tanakh is evolved from torah

babble is evolved from there

here is basic wiki for the unevolved mind to learn a bit

try evolving as it will assist you with living longer

 

haha you proved nothing. I already know what exactly Tanakh is.

Nice try at trying to sound smart though. Your not teaching anyone anything.

You still have yet to prove that the Quran is anything more then toilet paper with plagerized stories from Tanakh and gospel.

 

and i can prove the commands are plagerized from egypt

ie... judaism is from egypts monotheism (the exodus is just another schism from an older religious belief, not of special people being chosen of god (like the bigots teach))

All you do is twist up lie, like most any bigot.

I rather like the idea that bigots will be judged by human beings as then you can experience the hand personally.

Put is this way, when you deny, i find that as your personal choice to die!

(ie... you think it is ok to lie and have no responsibility to your actions but i can assure you, that belief will end while you are aware of life and can experience the pain, first hand)

to you being irresponsible is of no consequence but no society (irehell) will survive by the lie


even the poop of tailmud............ proclaims!!!!!

Talmud, Avot 1:1 proclaims "the world endures on three things: justice, truth, and peace." It is difficult to imagine a society surviving for long if no one cares about honesty

http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/hf_LyingPermissible.html



"A truth that's told with bad intent

Beats all the lies you can invent" [William Blake]

"Tis not enough your counsel still be true;

Blunt truths more mischief than nice falsehoods do"

[Alexander Pope]

"The truth is an awful weapon of aggression.

It is possible to lie, and even to murder, with the truth"

[Alfred Adler]

The Jewish View on Lying

The Torah seems to be unequivocal with regard to lying: "Thou shall not bear false witness" (Exodus 20:16),



you are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing with the wrong guy!


and each day, i believe a limb shoult be cut from your body when you contradict truth with 'false witness'


but lets try a quranic claim

Our Prophet (saas) also had words about people who slander others:

"If a man uses a word in order to disgrace an innocent man in this world, Allah will burn him in Hell-fire on the Day of Resurrection."



no mercy for the wicked



Dishonesty and deception are serious crimes in Jewish law

 

For the illiterate, even copy and paste turned to be too hard.

 

LOL Show me where I lied.

BTW are you threatning me, Mr. Tough guy? HAH

 

With all thouse threats, I think it can be said Mr. Bishidi is a bit made I called Quran toilet paper.

To bad what he dont know is I use it for toilet paper all the time =]

 

that you are jewish

I dont threaten, i was sharing my belief

 

Idk, you say "You are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing with the wrong guy" hahahaha

SO once again You have yet to prove why the Quran is more then toilet paper.

 

I lied about being Jewish eh?

Care to prove? lol

 

again, false witness

You are discounting a theology because i put your nose into your own stink (tailmud); hence the quote.

Because you are irresponsible and believe you are not a human life that will be held accountable.


I hate liars with such a passion. And You are representing yourself as an example of what lies have done to people.


I dont threaten people.

Remember, all them theologies express what will happen to the beasts. My point is, you have no right to mislead and have been ruined by the selfishness of pride, ignorance and deception.

i have no pity for such monsters because of what it has done to people like you (the children) and if you have any knowledge of any diety within any description of religious works, 'that' god (mother nature) doesnt either.

What is killing you, is you, by your own choice and people need to be aware, that when 'the day' comes, to harden themselves to realize, some bodies are best used for feeding the flower, then feeding the children.

 

All those who thinks god is hate, punishment, pain and sin, does not understand the basics of god.
They practically spread blasphemy wherever they speak.
They are not part of god’s children but are Satan’s children.
They will return to hell where they belong no matter what religious they pretend to follow.

 

A friendly advice. Learn what a false witness it lol I beared no false witnes against anything. And If i did, you better prove it. Oh wait, I have been askign you to prove everything you claim, yet fail to over and over again.

LOL Talmud has nothing to do with this thread or any of my post.

haha again you fail to prove anything you have previously claimed and accuse me of. Id say, you either are to stupid to comprehend what is being said, or just a bit nuts. Im actually going to go with both ahaha

 

and if the coming mess of a man was walking, do you think your bigotry is good?

do you actually believe you would be allowed to do what you are doing on this thread alone?

Do you actually believe you are special over another because of your religious (self imposed) label?

it is evolved from the previous beliefs (foundation)

but the PROOF is the requirement of personal responsibility (something you DO NOT understand).

but you will!

 

nature (god) provides, mankind judges the flesh

nature include all time; the ultimate judge

hence the lies (liars) will eventually be extinct

now that fits (with comprehending 'god' and judgment)

i agree

as to do bad, will fade (no exceptions)

i know i aint perfect (as i am just a man) but i will arm the children to know how to judge, equally.

then eventually the beasts will be put to rest, tangibly.