What makes the Quran, better than Bible or Torah?

Yes.. I know what Christ taught.. and that is my faith by training and heritage, but I also know what Muslims believe.. That's called education.

 

You violate what Christ taught and what his appointed taught.

You are either not a Christian, or just Christian by name

 

You mean that to be a Christian you must pretend that there are not people of any other faith on this planet?

 

No. To be a Christian is to follow the teachings of Christ and his Apostles.

With that said, I suggest you read thous quotes I posted.

 

I am an atheist, and I have read, the bible and qur'an, both in several translations. YES. The Muslims worship the god of Abraham, that is simple and easily checked fact. To deny that it is a fact shows only ignorance, hatred and religious bigotry.

 

Mohammad was a Christian in his early years. The present day Muslims are as foolish about denying that fact as present day Christians are foolish about denying that Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all based on the OT of the Bible. OH, and Christianity and Islam both believe in Jesus.

 

Ezra, ignored for the inability to converse without vulgar language. Your choice of words certainly should give fellow Christians pride in you.

 

Vulgar language?

Oh please.

 

This is just silly - there are few Christian denominations today that abide by the teachings of Christ.

Even worse - there are many Christian churches that have taken up political activism.

Worst of all - the droves of Christian Leaders who claim to speak for God.

 

Ugh... Always harping on the same old stuff and you are far removed from history to know anything.

Here Christian - "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." ~ Jesus .. Try not to forget these words, they are your faith after all,no ?

 

i beg to differ because if you did, you would be careful who you call 'christ'

because it was not jesus, per his own charge (per bible of course)

matt 16;20 Then did he charge his disciples that they may say to no one that he is Jesus the Christ.

hearitage has nothing to do with faith.

A culture or even the parents may brainwash a mind to believe but heritage aint about belief.

education of many beliefs and forms of literature is how to evolve. ie... combine material information and learn (education)

 

words transcend time.

how do you think we can read what darwin learned?

einstein?

newton?

confucius?

jesus?

combine all knowledge from the words left by the greats (on the shoulders of giants) and the pinnacle of evolution (existence comprehending itself) can be achieved (ie.... the unveiling)

basic

 

heck,,,,,

notice the thread title?

quran is the combining of the previous theologies (hence the thread is easy to answer)

that's what makes it better than the previous.


kind of like, einstein's work is better than newtons

and todays works are better than the previous

like the iphone models and computers, the last is almost obsolete by the next 'improvements'


it's basic common sense

just like the next generations of mankind will kick the poop out of this one

 

Hey .. great quote .. that was an old one !

 

From an educated Christian named Margot said the Christians Muhammad knew were nestorian. Aka heretics who taught a different theology then what Christians believe. Therefore it not the complete true theology of Christianity that was combined into it.

Not to mention, you over simplify it. Just because its the last of the Abrahamic religion, doesn't mean they are better. They differ radically and teach different beliefs.

 

And is they do, then they would take the verses from the letters from St. John and see exactly what I am talking abot.

Christianity has always had moral and social justice teachings.

You act as if its a claim that only leaders of Churchs can speak to God. We all speak to God.

 

Mark 14:60-62
English Standard Version (ESV)

60And the high priest stood up in the midst and asked Jesus, "Have you no answer to make? What is it that these men testify against you?"[a] 61But he remained silent and made no answer. Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?" 62And Jesus said, "I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven."

 

Matthew 16:15-17
New International Version (NIV)


15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.

 

John 4:25-26
New International Version (NIV)


25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”

 

I agree

 

Have you ever focused on each of the beliefs offer or clearly what they 'teach' their practitioners?

Judaism: you are 'chosen ones'

Christianity: you are forgiven

Islam: you must be responsible


them are the flavors of the abrahamic sects in the shortest line item discriptions of the philosophical inheritance each offer from their teachings.


So which is best?

 

You seriously do not know what you are talking about. There is to much in both Judaism and Christianity to be able to simplify them as such.

 

But Islam is easily simplified in one sentence?

(But I doubt you'd pick that sentence)

 

I don't like to talk about things I do not know.

I will admit I do not know Islamic theology.

 

easy r ya to point a finger, without any meat to back up your claim

sorry as i know all three beliefs (horns) of abraham, from about 3 decades of research/experience and pure intent to learn.


what is your reasoning to suggest i am even remotely incorrect?

i mean, i can list about a dozen different sects of either judaism and christianity and each will have contradictions from the other while labeling themselves jewish and christian.


each have a variety of versions and various scopes of importance but to really see the underlying, i would bet i am closer to the philosophical comprehension than any you've ever even read of.



it is weird how people doubt so easily as when the day comes i will be just as rude............

i can now see why i am getting so calloused.