What privilege does the rich have and how do they screw the rest 99%?

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  1. Armor For Sleep

    Armor For Sleep New Member

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    But it's their property!

    But it's their property!

    But it's their property!

    I think you're just jealous.


    Jealous...property...jealous...envious...properttyyyyy...proooopeeerrrtyyyy.....*beeep*.....system overload. Propertarian robot emergency shut down initiated....
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    You are fooling yourself.

    Any reasonable person can understand that laws (especially the financial ones) are indeed weighted against the average working person. If you think that people have to wait around for a TUTORIAL from some 'expert' to know that... they you are probably misguided.

    I don't know the exact mechanics of the law per se, but I know as a human being (and as an American) that the laws are not 'just'.

    That isn't generally difficult to fathom.
     
  3. Armor For Sleep

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    Rent seeking doesn't create jobs. It just transfer wealth from the productive to the legally entitled.

    Well, I certainly don't, since I understand that most of their wealth has been accumulated in an entirely parasitic manner.
     
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    Land titles. The wealthy pocket all the value of government spending on infrastructure and services via this legal entitlement. Because of how land values are effected by the economy and the tax system, you have to outpace both the GDP and the tax man in order to own a land title valuable enough to escape that racket.
     
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    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...00F0AF9C5FED4ED7233B399619518&selectedIndex=2



    Can you or can you not dispute this chart that proves it is wrong? Can you even come up with a different chart that tells an entire different story? If not, wouldn't you say it is a fact that what you've said is really what is silly and wacky, which would certainly indicate fact?
     
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    They're only weighted AGAINST YOU if you don't take advantage of the opportunities rich people take advantage of. It's not rich people's fault you don't, so stop attempting to penalize their financial success.

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    In short, the rules don't define your class. YOU DO.
     
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    You mean like the subsidies that only go to large, corporate farmers and not independent farmers? You mean like that?
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    So you were just blowing smoke then. When you can come up with something to back your assertion let me know.

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    Which ones only go to large corporations and not private farms?
     
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    You mean like becoming a corporate farmer instead of an independent farmer? Yes, you too can benefit from the same rules and regulations, assuming you have what is takes to get where they're at.

    My points stands. The rules don't define WHO you are or WHAT you can achieve. STOP making an endless parade of excuses and START doing what successful people do to be successful.
     
  10. Johnny-C

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    Do you know how disconnected AND ludicrous what you said truly is?!!

    Please, get a clue.

    No wonder the SHEPHERDS are letting the WOLVES do as they will. :(
     
  11. Str8Edge

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    Or keep whining about how "life" is so unfair I guess. Your tears are rather tasty.
     
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    The envious complain about the wealth of the upper quintiles yet do nothing to accumulate it for themselves. I learn a valuable lesson early on, put your money to work for you. THAT is how you build wealth. And I did starting out with a small monthly investment sent to Fidelity Investments in their Magellan fund and then diversifying and now as I approach retirement in the top quintile of wealth and the envious want to tax it because it's not fair.
     
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    Haven't rented since I was 20 years old and I earned my wealth it wasn't transferred to me just as with most people.

    Actually they are usually the host with the parasites living off of them.
     
  14. Str8Edge

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    How much pot do I need to smoke to "get a clue"? :roflol:

    You complain endlessly about corporatism/banks but elect corporate/banking whores to office? YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
     
  15. Johnny-C

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    You just go on thinking you are correct.

    Reality is something I'm perfectly confident will support everything I've pointed out thus far.
     
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    Nothing preventing you from getting title to land except yourself and lack of initiative.

    Ahhh welfare pockets more. Some people earn money from the government by building infrastructure, you could to if you want to.
     
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    You simply exaggerate, and to little effect.

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    More foolishness from fantasy-land.
     
  18. Str8Edge

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    Shhhh.... If you teach them how to become wealthy, we'll no longer be able to sustain ourselves on their endless tears.....

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    Really? So you progressives argue about anything OTHER than "wealth" inequality? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
  19. Johnny-C

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    Keep laughing. Reality is walking through, prepared to teach us all the things it will.

    Disagreement abounds here... I will leave it there for now.
     
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    Ya well, after 26+ years being clean from drugs and alcohol, I'm in more reality than most of you pot smoking philosophers. :weed:
     
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    That's completely false. Land values outpace the GDP. If people in aggregate just work harder and stop "lacking initiative" the only result will be land values rising even higher as there would be more production and more taxes spend on infrastructure and services. It's literally economically impossible for the vast majority of people to to stop being a victim of the corrupt landowner welfare entitlement racket. In order to escape the racket you have to buy land which is more valuable than any other taxes you pay. In the meantime, those who own valuable land live like leeches on you. They pocket your taxes.

    Actually, welfare spending is just a tiny portion of the free handouts to landowners. What do you think happens when the government gives people welfare checks? More competition for convenient locations to make use of them. IOW, the money spend on welfare crystallizes as land values and is a free handout to landowners as they get higher prices at sale of land and higher rents from their tenants.
     
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    Hey... it's up to you, to be real/reasonable. (No one can/should force you to be.)
     
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    Rent seeking: "When a company, organization or individual uses their resources to obtain an economic gain from others without reciprocating any benefits back to society through wealth creation."

    LMFAO!!!!!

    Most of the rich are welfare kings getting rich of government handouts and entitlements.
     
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    Have you ever see The Blob? The Blob itself is a good example of what capitalism does to it's surroundings. It eats everything up in it's path leaving nothing left. Once you get to a sizeable income, you needn't work anymore. Your money does it for you. So why is considered any form of WORKING? I could use my computer to diversify investments of 1 million dollars on my computer in the span of about 2 hours and sit back and collect dividends and pay less taxes on the returns than someone who sweats for a living, dealing with garbage of society. And you I would be a better person because I clicked a few internet icons and pushed a couple of keys and for that I should be rewarded?

    There's an old thought experiment from the Navy I remember. A Chief asked me, "What is the most important occupation on this ship?" I thought he was trying to get me to take pride in my job as a radar technician as the person who maintains the eyes of the ship so I said, "Radar tech?" He said "No. Far from it. What's the one thing that is most important on a daily basis in time of peace or war? What's the one thing that everyone is affected by at least once a day, possibly more, that can have a ripple effect on the entire ship's operations?" It didn't take me long to figure out where he was going. I answered "The cooks." He asked me why I answered that. I said, "Well, if they don't inspect and prepare the ship's food properly, it can lead to sickness spreading through the ship fairly quickly leading to everyone else's duties being affected." Then he said, "That's right. Don't look down on anyone you think is below you. They affect you more than you know."

    The rich aren't better, they depend on everyone they step on and rip off to get to their position. Most people are happy for them. No one thinks they don't deserve their riches. Most people think they deserve to pay dues because they didn't get their on their own, they didn't earn money from nowhere. They earned it at the support of the very people they're now ripping off by refusing to pay taxes, fair wages, etc.

    In fact, that ridiculous story 'atlas shrugged' is literally the antithesis of reality. I'm not pushing for communistic organization as is prevalent in the military structuring of pecking order and pay regardless of occupation. But I'm much aware that my job was just as dependent on the cooks that served me food as they were for me being the guy that made sure the ship's eyes and ears were functional.

    It's a two way street and the current guys that just went through the door of opportunity have slammed it behind them and now they're trying to board up the windows, too.
     
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    So..... you have no opportunity to achieve what they did even though you claimed you could in your first paragraph...... You better rethink your contradictory position.
     
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