What should be done about people that framed General Flynn?

Relegated cleaning up the junkie leftist poop and needles on the streets of San Francisco would be a good work detail once they are all sentenced to life in prison

 

Nothing because the man as a guilty dog. He lied. Several times. He admitted to lying. Trump FIRED him for lying. He confessed and plead guilty to his crimes.

Nothing. Let this man rot in jail.

 

Jail. In a few cases, there is a good case for treason. As a federal crime, folks used to say... that's a hangin offense...

 

Since the people who "framed" Flynn are the existential equivalent of "Harvey" what do you think we should do with them?

 

Brooklyn park? You mean Central Park, right? The kids that were kept sleep-deprived and who knows what else until they finally got so tired that they confessed to something they didn't do? The same kids who were later exonerated via DNA evidence, after which Trump was still calling for their execution?

Bad analogy. Flynn was not under duress of that nature, not even close. And he's a grown man, not a child like the Central Park five. All he EVER had to do was ask for his attorney. And it was his attorney who held his hand during the confession and copping a plea.

 

A simple yes or no is sufficient.

 

what part of confession do you fail to understand?

 

Nothing. The man is a guilty dog, and his ex boss is a total and complete scum bag. No one framed him. Anyone who believes he was framed is a complete idiot, and not really someone possible to have a rational conversation with.

Why are you in support of criminals?

 

Yes, the politicized political FBI has committed crimes against the person of Flynn.

 

"A simple yes or no" is meaningless. Yes or no about what?

Flynn was not entrapped. There's your "no." He freely confessed and copped a guilty plea with his lawyer at his side. He was ready to take a reduced sentence in exchange for cooperation -- that's what a plea deal is. He's trying to get out of what would have been a slap on the wrist. If you or I had done what Flynn did, we'd be wearing orange jump suits already.

Cooperating got him off easy, but staying loyal to the president could get him off entirely via the pardon process. So even though he’d already pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, Flynn changed his mind, tried to withdraw his plea, and began fighting the prosecutors he’d promised to cooperate with. Why do Trump's supporters need Flynn to be a good guy? Why defend him?

Lock him up.

 

Umm, it’s not about Flynn, it’s the actions of the FBI.

 

What confession?

 

Flynn, a prominent Trump campaign surrogate in 2016, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. during the postelection transition. He became a cooperating witness with special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. He also admitted making false statements about lobbying work for Turkey.

 

Horse pucky. This is about a man with no honor trying to go back on his word in order to curry favor with Trump, hoping for a full pardon. The FBI did their effing jobs.

 

It's not their job to create crimes.

 

Yeah, but then he fired his attorney, got new counsel, who pressed for evidence that the Mueller team was hiding...in violation of Brady...when it was finally turned over we discovered there was no crime at all, and the DOJ did the ethical thing and moved to dismiss the case that should never have been brought.

Read it...pretty damning: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...smiss/fa06f5e13a0ec71843b6/optimized/full.pdf

 

No need for a pardon...the case will be missed.

Read the damning Motion which highlights how the Mueller team hide evidence for years that shows there was no crime at all....

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...smiss/fa06f5e13a0ec71843b6/optimized/full.pdf

 

Right, except the question was....what did he confess to? I supplied what he confessed to.

 

No he didn't confess to anything...he took a plea....then pulled it back....

a confession would also require evidence that actually corroborates the confession....the DOJ has no evidence of any crime....read the Motion it outlines it in great detail.

https://casetext.com/analysis/confession-sufficiency-of-evidence-to-corroborate-a-confession

United States v. Adams, 583 F.3d 457 (6th Cir. 2009)

The trial court erred in refusing to instruct the jury that it could not convict the defendant based solely on the defendant’s own confession, without corroborating evidence. The fact that there was other corroborating evidence does not eliminate the need to properly instruct the jury if a request is made.

 

There was no confession....

He took a plea, did cooperate.....which apparently yielded no important information for the Mueller team.....then changed his mind on the plea....hired to attorneys....who pushed for Brady evidence that Mueller's team was withholding....they withheld it for years, and when it was finally released, it was discovered there was no crime at all...hence why the DOJ has done the only ehtical thing they can do and move to dismiss

Read the damning motion: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...smiss/fa06f5e13a0ec71843b6/optimized/full.pdf

Some of Mueller's team will likely face some Bar sanctions

 

Semantics. He pled guilty. Therefore he confessed to lying

 

Nope two different things....he quickly then moved to withdraw his plea once it was discovered there was important Brady evidence the Mueller team was hiding.

Innocent people plea guility all the time....people move to withdrawel their pleas regularly too.

What's uncommon is the Mueller team's withholding of Brady evidence....that typically doesn't happen....at this point it's obvious why the Mueller team did it....but that's very wrong and a violation of the General's rights


https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/373/83/

 

He admitted to lying. Deal with it.

 

Lying isn't a crime

Glad you have back down from your prior accusations though

 

IMO, treason, obstruction of justice, extortion, perjury ... etc.