What the policing response to the KKK in the 1960s can teach about dismantling white supremacists...

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  1. Soupnazi

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    Your arguments are weak. Yes some terrorists are educated but not all. The fact is the BLM/ANTIFA terrorists were not,
     
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    Dude I see the obvious. And no the Dems don't play the FBI. They don't have to. They control the funding for most of the last 80 years. You think that doesn't impact what they have to say you aren't paying attention. As I asked another poster in another thread, How many more times do you let them cry wolf before you figure out you're being played?
     
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    “Your argument is weak! You are making up claims! Which is why I’m going to make up claims too! Especially really bad claims like BLM/ANTIFA are terrorists, even though they’re more akin to rioters! Grrr! Calling everything a terrorist act is the only way I can understand these groups grrr!”

    That’s your argument in a nutshell. They’re just talking points, and really bad ones at that.
     
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    So what you’re saying is the Democrats control the FBI. Do you see how you’re engaging in conspiracy theories not because you’re true but because of a preconceived idea of how the government works? Of course SPLC and ADL see the world through their lens, but the FBI has lots of different ways and standards of looking at their own intel. They refer to lots of different groups not just two.
     
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    Yes the most obvious facts are conspiracy theories to people who don't follow the money. There is no money in yelling about left wing terrorist. Hell even neo cons prefer their terrorists to be right wing. They don't care much more for their own voters than you do.

    If they did they would react to the vicious slander of the left a bit more forcefully like at all.
     
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    There’s a difference in saying that because you think there’s money that means that’s the government prerogative and saying that politicians are always going to do what their donors tell them to say and do. That’s just not at all true because it ignores the autonomy of the bureaucrats. It treats them as if they don’t have a will of their own and that’s just poor reasoning.
     
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    Let me make this as simple as I can. There are two gods in DC, money and power. Yelling about right wing terrorists gets you access to both of them yelling about left wing terrorists gets you access to neither and can get you booted into limbo. Guess where all the incentives are.
     
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    The individual choices of bureaucrats trying to make a name for themselves.
     
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    And they do that by denouncing right wing terrorism.
     
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    That is nogt a claim it is a fact which you are in denial of like most left wingers who exciuse the actions of terrorists they support.

    Get this straibght they are terrorists FACT

    They are correct and you are not ingtelligent enough to refute them.
     
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    I mean if that's what you want to call denial if it makes you feel better about it I guess you can call it whatever you want
     
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    I wouldn’t call them a White supremacist group. They are more like a White Christian Nationalist organization. Kind of cult like. Violent White Evangelical Christian Nationalists. They, like the rest of the alt-right movement, grew out of certain men’s frustrations over the feminist movement. Among those arrested for the attempted insurrection at the Capital, at least two listed their occupation as dating coach. Who would have guessed?
     
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    The AntiFa, the imaginary enemy for an ideology in desperate need of an enemy. Makes one wonder why another would get so upset that there are anti fascists.
     
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    How would you know?
     
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    How do you know? How could you know, everything considered?
     
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    we fight fascism by beating people up in the street sounds sort of like something the fascist might do.
     
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    They are not imaginary and they are not anti fascist. They are real and more pro fascist than anyone else in the US.
     
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    Because unlike you I stay informed
     
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    It's incredible the lies people try to sit here and sell us. We are not supposed to believe our lying eyes.

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    Utter nonsense. What you actually know about Christians and conservatives that is accurate would fit on a postage stamp with a lot of room left over.
     
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    Please point out any and all inaccuracies in the data I've provided.

    I'll be over here not holding my breath.
     
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    How do you know if your information is valid, or not? Because it seems a bit iffy to me.
     
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    How do you know yours is?
     
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    I check back after the fact. Quite often an incident will occur. In the aftermath, the mainstream will say one thing, but the conservative world will claim another. In the heat of the moment, the truth is often lost in the fog, but after the dust settles, things tend to become clear. A prime example was the time when the Trump went unhinged after a question by a CNN reporter at a news conference. The next day, the Conservadome was all in an uproar, over a video that appeared to show the CNN reporter hitting a young aide, as she reached for the microphone. Right wing pundit after right wing pundit went on and on about how terrible the CNN reporter and the “fake news” were. Turned out, as any experienced eye could tell, the video had been doctored. The reporter never even touched the aide. In fact, in a camera view from a different angle showed that the CNN reporter even turned his body so as not to inadvertently bump into the young woman.

    The real story was the unhinging of the Trump. But instead, the Conservadome saw a doctored video and endless speeches on the supposed horrors of a free press. Thus the whole narrative coming out of the right wing media was built upon a fraud, yet, even after it was exposed as such, a great many conservatives continued to believe what happened, which clearly did not happen. And then on to the next fabricated outrage.
     
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    If you go to google and type, “stock photos right-wing militia” and click on the images option, you will find many pictures of said right-wing militias - guns, Confederate flags, and all.
     

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