No, it is not part of her body. It has its own body. Someone can't be part of two bodies at the same time, because bodies are distinct and separate. A fetus is inside her body which is different than being part of it. Look, I actually support abortion but recognize that the constitution doesn't mention it.
However the SC found that the right to privacy is imply in the constitution and the other amendments that is why the police can no longer can break down our doors in the middle of the night if we had married someone that does not share our skin color or for having gay sex behind those doors. Nor can the state look inside a woman womb.in order to try to force her to carry a fetus to full term.
Trust me, it wasn't meant as a compliment... Again, like so many Anti-Choicers who have no facts they like to dwell on irrelevancies to divert from their main goal of taking away women's rights to their own bodies. Once they have lost that right they are subject to anything the government wants to do to them.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Uh, I am no Constitutional expert but shouldn't Americans have the right to their own body protected??? It's not about abortion....it's about EVERYONE, even mere women, having the right to their own body. IF the fetus is ever deemed a person with rights, the woman it's in shouldn't lose her right to self defense against another PERSON....should she??
FoxHastings said: ↑ A fetus IS a body part of a woman, attached just like a heart, liver, kidney....it is part of HER body, not the government's , not yours, not some busybody Anti-Choice misogynist's.. If that's the case then the fetus should be able to be removed at anytime from the woman and set on a shelf to grow on it's own. NO one should be allowed to use another person's body to sustain their life without consent. YOU wouldn't be forced to give blood or your heart to someone who needs one, why should women be forced to give their body to sustain the life of another?
I doubt it ever will. It's a scare tactic aimed at getting votes and a political party's base riled up so they will get out and vote. Even if Roe were overturned, it would go back to each state to decide where it was prior to the SCOTUS decision.
I agree with everything including, "" it would go back to each state to decide where it was prior to the SCOTUS decision"" ...and it shouldn't. American citizens should have the same basic right to their own body in EVERY American state...…..
So if a woman crosses a state line for an abortion, can she be tried for murder on return? If she crosses the border and has a miscarriage, will she have to document it's a miscarriage? You know the only way to do that is an invasive and very personal violation. What? The right to privacy from search extends to a car but not a vagina? This is why the Supreme Court struck down abortion restriction laws. They cannot be enforced in any type of equitable manner and wealthy individuals will just take "vacation," meaning the only people who will ever be brought up on charges are the poor. And the Justices cited just that in their decision.
Marijuana is legal in some states and not in others. Look, I get that a lot of people on the left don't believe in federalism, and of course the constitution. But in a vast nation that has varying opinions on issues, it's easier for each state to live the way they want to, and the rest of the nation can observe the results, rather than an overarching, statist boot coming down and making decisions for everyone.
American citizens should have the same basic right to their own body in EVERY American state...….. WHO wants to make decisions for everyone? Anti-Choicers, that's who.
FoxHastings said: ↑ American citizens should have the same basic right to their own body in EVERY American state...….. WHO wants to make decisions for everyone? Anti-Choicers, that's who. Why don't you address what I posted instead of silly fairy tales that show you don't really have an answer. However, if the right to one's own body is taken away from one group of citizens, it opens the door to taking away other citizens right to their own bodies so maybe states could decide who is killed, who has to "donate" their heart to a wealthy person with a bad heart, and who has to have babies and who CAN'T.....
We've already argued over this in this same thread, so I'm not sure why you are setting the clock back and starting from zero again. You've already established that you're unable to understand an opposing argument. You didn't even understand my post, which directly responded to the same question you've asked in this thread, and was just as stupid then as when you originally asked it. Your statement: "American citizens should have the same basic right to their own body in EVERY American state...….." So, the issue is having a right to your own body, correct? So isn't euthanasia a "right to your own body?" Is it or isn't it? There are lots of things you can do to your own body? Are they all "rights?" And if they are, does that mean suddenly the constitution is invalid and those rights can be imposed on every state?
Well, if it wasn't meant as a compliment, it must have been meant as a childish insult. And again, like so many pro aborts that can't come up with one single, even tiny little shred of evidence to support claims they've made on this forum, dozens if not hundreds of times through the years. Son, that's called fear mongering, and it appears that 98% of your pro abort stance relies upon it...Lets see if we can find another example.... FOX SAID>> "Once they have lost that right they are subject to anything the government wants to do to them" WHOOAA!, now that didn't take long... Would you please mind elaborating on this statement? What exactly is the Govt. planning on doing to women if Roe v. Wade is overturned? Are they going to place them into enslavement camps and force them to build pyramids? Bake cookies? You've already made it clear that your wisdom and experience in the field of abortion far exceeds mine, and since YOU have made this exact claim dozens, if not hundreds of times on these forums, certainly it would be quite easy for you to back up these claims with some form of elite, pro abort, insider information. Please do share... i'll be waiting...
And that's why the Supreme Court ruled as they did in Roe v. Wade. The state was making an overarching, statist decision for every woman regarding their uterus. Gods, heaven help us if an individual state tried to control a gun in a separate state decision - conservatives scream like stuck pigs ( and rightfully so)... But a woman's uterus? Hell, it's just a woman's body - not a handgun. Any libertarian who supports individual states controlling a woman's uterus is a fraud.
Euthanasia - that gives OTHERS the right to put down and animal/human at their discretion. It is the opposite of having control of your own body. I think you mean Assisted Suicide - where the person who is going to die has full control till that last instant.
I'm not sure you get to declare who is and who isn't a libertarian, but if that ability exists, I'll claim it for myself and declare that you are not a libertarian, you're a statist that wants to establish a one size fits all on the entire country. If you really want to protect American womanhood from the SC, just pass a constitutional amendment that imposes that decision as actually part of the constitution; problem solved. That's what happened with the 2nd...
According to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers - they had no problem with abortion. It was legal at the time of signing. It's the anti-abortion people who are going against the intent of the Constitution.
Women don't give themselves abortions. They go to a doctor. But yes, you can use the term assisted suicide if you feel it fits better with the analogy.
I don't have a problem with abortion, at least in the early weeks. I'm not even talking about abortion yes or no, I'm talking about the constitution. We have a federal system, and this is an issue for the states.
Article IV, section 2. The Citizens of each state shall be entitled to ALL privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. If controlling one's own uterus is considered a privilege in several states, then the Constitution backs having that privilege in all states.
