What would life be like in a modern day Christian theocracy?

Christians are different in that they are raised to believe in Truth, which itself sets men free of evil practices.

Patriarchies, whether muslims or Chinese or N Korean, all believe in eradicating sexual evil conduct as a defensive against it.
Like the Hebrew patriarchs of the early Judaism, these patriarchs whether religious of Chines, Korean, etc wil use force of Laws they make.

 

The Bible condemned the RCC for it bad behavior as can be seen below:


Rev. 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, (Thyatira, Church of Rome), because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, (tolerating a homosexually deviant sect), which calleth herself a prophetess, (proclaiming insight into doctrines of celibacy), to teach and to seduce my servants, (particularly the altar boys), to commit fornication, (to engage in pedophilia and sodomizes), and to eat "things" sacrificed unto (phallic) idols.

Rev. 2:21 And I gave her, (this sect within the Universal Catholic Church) space (of 400 years, 1054-1492AD) to repent of her (pedophilia), fornication; and she repented not.　

Rev. 2:22 Behold, I will cast her, (this sect within the Universal Catholic Church), into a bed (of financial litigation), and them that commit adultery with her, (the organized church heirarchy), into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

Rev. 2:23 And I will kill her children with death (by Black Plague, and AIDS, and both civil and criminal prosecutions); and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins (of behavior) and hearts (of their mind): and I will give unto every one of you (who replace this fallen institution) according to your (new congregation's) works.

 

As someone posted earlier there is far to much variation among different Christian groups to allow for a theocracy. Catholics and Protestants don't get along and even among Protestants you have major splits. Some of them like the one branch of the Methodists allow gay women pastors while others like some Evangelicals won't even let women vote on church issues.

I was raised in an Evangelical environment. Every month or so we would egg or TP a Catholic church and let the air out of their vans tires. They would respond in kind by leaving bags of burning poop by the air conditioner intake so the entire building would smell for days or soldering the locks closed. My favorite one was when we super glued all of their hymns and Bibles so that they couldn't pull them out of the holders. They got us pretty good when they replace the wine and grape juice with cough syrup and Listerine.

 

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When I show YOU the Facts about Child Abuse which comes with fatherless kids born to single mothers, you do not join me in condemning the sexual promiscuity which causes this.

Here, you infer that sexual child abuse bothers you.
Go figure...

 

And it was a Theocracy over all Rome, too, after 380AD, when Theo I made Christianity the only legal religion.

This excuses the killings of non-religious and heretics which are just traitors, the same way rebels or anti-government people act in a democracy.
Rebels usually implies a dictatorship which also used force to survive as the legal government.
Disloyalty to the King would be another form of a government enforcing its Law and Order.

The Inquisition was just a react against people trying to challenge the RCC Theocracy, and was just as defensible as what other other six types of governments do, even now.

 

Clearly, you are not a scientist.

 

One thing that should be kept in mind is that establishing a State Church, and even making that the only legal Church, does not make a Theocracy. A Theocracy is where the religion and the government are precisely one and the same, and even the old Caliphates did not achieve that, (I think). Medieval "Christendom" certainly did not, the Pope's power was only nominal over most areas for most of its duration and the Pope himself was, in fact, a vassal of a succession of Emperors for several centuries. Most European nations used their State Churches to reinforce their rule, to give it legitimacy, but the Church was very clearly the servant and not the ruler.

 

One man's truth is another person's lie.

 

I do not think we need Revelations to tell us this. One only needs to heed a few of the teachings of Jesus "Do undo others" Judge Not and so on.

After all, Jesus was a Jew as were all his disciples. Early Christianity was a Jewish only movement. Paul did not convert until years after the death of Jesus and it was only after Paul's conversion that gentiles got involved. Give this it is kind of ridiculous for the Catholic Church to go after Jews.

It was not only Jews though. They also went after orthodox Christians and probably would have gone after protestants as well given the opportunity.

 

Care to elaborate and back this silly assertion up? From what I've seen, it's people who believe in some Truth™ who are most dangerous, as they will rank the importance of that Truth™ above life and liberty, and so will harm and kill others in the pursuit of it, feeling justified in their Greater Good all the while.

There is nothing evil about sex, at least as long as it is consensual and preferably kept between adults.

 

Yes, Christianity was at first a Jewish movement. In fact, it was a movement related to the war being waged between the Jewish Zealots from Galilee, the occupying Romans, and the Pharisees, i.e. perceived collaborators with the Romans. It was also a movement borne of similar religious movements that had come before it elsewhere in that part of the world. In this, it was a form of religious evolution from the older monotheism of the Jews to something newer that was centered around a savior demigod who was actually quite different from the original conception of the Jewish Messiah, but not so much that the former could not be morphed into the latter through theological wrangling, and that is something that Christianity also ended up doing.

 

Tis true. The Jews concept of a messiah was that of a Davidic like figure sent by God to lead them to former Glory. There was a whole messianic tradition among Jews in the first century and it was very militaristic.

Jesus did not pop out of a vacuum. There were many messiah claimants prior to and after Jesus. Simon of Peraea for example fought against the Romans and was killed by the Romans. There are Qumran texts that suggest he was thought to have risen 3 days later and his followers revered him as the messiah for years after.

Hitler did no arise out of a vacuum either. The Eugenics movement was in full swing during his time and was one of the more popular beliefs in both North America and all over Europe. Adolf took the tenets of the movement to an extreme but some of the core principles were widely held.

 

Forest for the trees.

I do stand against child abuse but I reject the premise of your logic. If I chose to be pernicious and sought out partners who did not have kids and I have none of my own, then how would that hurt kids? If I use protection then how are kids being hurt? If protection fails and I man up and take responsibility for the child then how are kids being hurt?

The premise of your logic is flawed as promiscuity is not the problem... parents stepping away from their parental obligation is the problem. Why you fail to see this remains a mystery to me. Next lets stop the spread of STD's by outlawing sex... forest for the trees Dave... forest for the trees...

 

Yep, I've said the same thing about Hitler as well. He gets villified as some kind of exceptionally bad character, but really he was a product of his times.. He just happened to have the right measure of charisma and other characteristics to become a very powerful and destructive leader in a place that was waiting for just such a character to come along.. Eugenics was a popular idea even in the USA back then, but that didn't fit the anti-Nazi narrative of the time, and that narrative has been maintained by the US even after the war was concluded. People like to think in terms of good guys and bad guys, and of course they like to be among the good guys themselves, hence America got whitewashed and Nazi Germany got, well, something opposite to that. It didn't help matters that there was an organised Zionist propaganda campaign during and after the war that centered around Jews specifically under Nazi power, which unfortunately created a version of events that has not only reinforced the good vs evil mantra, but has caused other victims of the era's Eugenicists to be relatively ignored in education and in the popular media alike.

Jesus, meanwhile, was an even more severe case of myth and legend becoming fact in the minds of people, and this was helped by the lack of literacy and mass communication at the time. No one could verify any claims made, and of course with this there was no widespread scientific literacy or standards, thus there was no scientific or skeptical inquiry. The ancient world was a very good environment for the spawning and growth of organised religions. They competed with one another the way other memes compete, and this is analogous to how life breeds, mutates and likewise competes for dominance in various niches. The end result is likewise comparable - where you have bears occupying a niche in one part of the world, you have large primates like chimps, gorillas and orangutans occupying the same niche in another. The religious cognate is Catholicism, Lutheranism, Islam, Hinduism, et cetera occupying the memetic religious niche in a given human population/culture, human populations/cultures thus being analogous to geographical regions in this comparison.

 

true, the real reason God was banned from schools was Christian infighting

 

there are many times in history that theists killed those that did not believe as they did, been happening sense the first God religion was invented

 

Do any Christians believe this?

 

By the way, if you really want to know, you should live in the Bible Belt in America for a year.

Then you'll know for certain.

 

how would that work out, though. there are so many religions, with so many contradictory dogmas, there'd be mass confusion.

 

moi?

I don't think I could stand it. Living as I do in an 'alternative' area, in an atheist majority country.

 

well said.

 

It would be a total disaster. There are two things in this world which divide men; Religion and Politics. You'd have constant strife.

 

I'm probably in the Bible Belt. It's pretty conservative where I'm at, anyway. My opinion? It's boring, and there's still nasty crime to be found all over the place. The predominance of Christianity doesn't make for some kind of paradise on Earth. Organised religion is good for helping people to hide aspects of themselves, but it doesn't change human nature.. What helps this party of the country to be as good as it is, I think, is relative economic prosperity. As Bertolt Brecht wisely put it, erst kommt das Fressen, dann kommt die Moral - first comes food, then comes morality.

 

indeed, the arguing of finer points of a given morality are the province of the leisured and well fed.

meantime, it's interesting to hear of the wholesale failure of bible belting to stem crime and/or bad behaviour. or rather, human behaviour. more evidence that none of them really believe they're being watched by a universe creating super-being. and in the same vein, where I live there is not much crime (it's so rare, that a recent burglary 3kms from here had everyone talking for a week), and not a huge amount of 'bad behaviour'. in fact, we have far lower rates of alcohol and drug abuse in our teens than do the conservative, god-bothering areas. we have lower rates of teen pregnancy, too. lower divorce (but also less formalised marriage, so yeah ... take that with a grain of salt) rates.

 

The hardcore religion only really manages to achieve what it sets out to achieve when it also has secular power. Then they can hunt down and destroy or lock up all of those wicked sinners they hate, and force the rest into obedience, at least outwardly. That's what theocracies manage, and that on a good day.