whats wrong with gay married couples wanting their adopted kids to be gay

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Doc Dred, Oct 7, 2013.

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should gay parents be encouraged to teach their adopted to be gay

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  1. yes

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  2. no

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  3. depends on the child

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  4. yes they are the parents and if it works for them , why not?

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  5. no, being gay is wrong, even though it is legal

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  6. children should not be taught sex at all

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  7. the whole sex thing is over rated

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  8. gay parents make better parents so we need more gays

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  9. adopted kids should follow in their parents footsteps

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  10. bisexulaity is the way to teach your kids

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  1. Doc Dred

    Doc Dred Banned

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    There seems to be a lot of inequality concerning the wishes a parent has in regard to their children.

    It's perfectly acceptable these days for parents to indoctrinate their children into their religion of choice.
    It's perfectly acceptable for heterosexual parents to wish their kids grow up like them.

    Why can't Gay parents teach their kids to be gay..or at least teach them to try gay sex with other people when they grow up.

    i will make a poll..
     
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    it's a tough issue, i agree.

    the world has changed, and the rules are no longer the same.

    adopting children by gay parents would not even be on the radar in the 60's...now it's encouraged.

    do you honestly think that gay people think they are sick, or something is actually wrong with their sexual preferences.

    so how could teaching your kids that being gay is a great lifestyle be wrong in anyway.. Daddy and Daddy do it all the time..

    maybe the child just needs a little nudging for them to try gay sex when they are of age.

    we teach our kids there is a God from day one.

    it's not left up to them to decide.

    if you never tell your kid about Jesus would Jesus be an issue with them when they get older.

    but if you teach the kids that not only is there a Jesus but if you do not pray to Him and take Him as your saviour then you could end up in everlasting hell.

    do parents teach this anywhere in america. Are people knocking on their doors with threats of taking the kids away from them.

    Same thing with teaching your kids about having sodomy with their friend Billy.

    what age do you teach your child about making babies?
    i was taught at 8 and that was back in the day...

    listen up George , you like billy right...well you can be far more friendly with him if you have anal sex with him when you grow up...

    whats the difference btw that and ..

    listen george, i see you like Suzie...well when your old enough and are capable of understanding what having sex with her means, this is what you do.
    momy and daddy do it all the time.
     
  3. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    One more time- I already told you:

    No one can teach a kid to be gay or straight. They are what they are and do not get a choice in the matter. All you can do is teach kids to be themselves.
     
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    I don't think parents should be imposing their sexual orientation on their children.

    Children can figure out their own sexual orientation just fine. What you propose is just as wrong as heterosexual parents teaching their kids that if they are gay they are evil.

    Wrong is wrong.

    Leave those kids alone.
     
  5. sec

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    we know your opinion. I was raised in a 100% heterosexual environment with no "girly men" and no homosexual couples. Heck, I did not meet my first child from a divorced home until High School. Male on male or female on female sex was not part of my upbringing. All that I was exposed to was males with females
    With that said, I chose to pursue young ladies because that is all that was exposed to me and all I knew.
     
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    Odd, I knew I was attracted to girls far before high school.

    And the gay guys I knew all had macho fathers who were at home- and those guys knew they were gay before high school also.

    Some of us figure this out earlier than others I guess.
     
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    That's all I was exposed to as well. But I still am attracted to men, not women. No one "teaches" anyone to be gay or straight. No one gets a choice.
     
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    Why not include the option: "It doesn't matter what you try and teach your kids, if they're going to be straight they're going to be straight and if they're going to be gay they're going to be gay"?

    Some of the most relentless homophobes have gay kids so their "lessons" don't seem to be working do they?
     
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    the prupose of a parent is to guide their child on the right path, to protect them and to be there for them when needed....... with that said you dont teach a sexuality. when they grow up they will find out who they are and who they are attracted too and when that time comes then you deal with it. indoctrinating a sexuality on a child is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing perverted, i dont give a damn if the parents are straight or gay. Of course parents are going to have "the talk" and questions will arise about sexuality, but to try and force it on a child is just plain sick.

    They will figure it out.
     
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    How would that be possible unless you're saying you can "choose to be gay"?
     
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    You shouldn't be trying to teach your kids to be gay or straight. That's one of those things they will figure out on their own.
     
  12. Doc Dred

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    so straight parents don;t teach their kids to be straight..

    when they tell them about the birds a nd bees you don;t see that as teaching...

    i'm trying to say that teaching your children how to enjoy gay sex is a good thing...

    maybe my wording is a lil off...
    just like my dad taught me how to pleaure woman with my tongue and be very gentle and patient for she deserves pleasure too...
    it would have been nice if he told me about anal sex with other men and oral pleasure between two men...

    the whole gambit should now be taught to kids just like dad taught me...

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    i think people miss the point...

    if your lucky enough to get adopted by two gay men , then they should instruct you in the finer points of how they pleasure each other.

    just like straight parents teach their straight kids...
     
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    I'm glad to hear your story from HS. Now do yourself a favor and re-read what I said about HS.
     
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    when there is a medical test to prove that we are born hetero or homosexual then I will believe your opinion.

    I of course believe it to be environmental and am sure that if we dug deep enough, we would find the turning point for you.

    Do you see how beliefs work? You are no more correct with your assertion than I am with mine
     
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    I do not like the finger test from the Dr so I would not like homosexual sex. We've been over this. If I don't like a finger, why would I like something larger inserted into my anus? Since your post was nonsense, I could crack a joke and say that liberals have been known to insert something much larger in there, something that is about 22-25 inches in circumference (think about it)
     
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    Why would you have to teach kids to be themselves?
    Do they not know who they are?
    Doesn't that sort of go against your whole "born that way" anthem ?


    You probably fall for that BS about the 6 yr old "transgender" too.... also known as "a mother who wanted a daughter instead".
     
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    so you don't like the act but you still think about men's bodies? Help me out here. You said it was a choice to be attracted to women. So you had to experience a rectal exam for that to me proven. Since you are pretty old when those are necessary when you fantasized about sex with men were you a top or bottom?
     
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    Why can't straight parents teach their kids to fly like birds? Children are not "taught" to be a certain orientation.

    It's teaching them about what it is to be gay or straight, or how sex works, but it has all the impact of a wet bunny fart when it comes to actually effecting their sexual orientation.
     
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    Jesus Christ! You'll twist anything, won't you?

    I'm really pretty damn sick of your BS. Of course kids know who they are. So just so we are clear here, since you can't seem to hear anything I say, let's put it this way: All we can do is teach kids that it's OK to be themselves.

    Now, twist that too, I'm sure you will.
     
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    where did i say anything about being taught something to alter their sexual orientation?
    It's obvious you have agendas and are using this opportunity to amend some social mishap that blinds you from the actual subject matter i am addressing here.

    I plainly pointed out that fathers and moms in heterosexual settings can explain sex acts to their children when they are young adults and it's perfectly acceptable.

    a good father like mine took the time to explain to me, not show me as the Troll implied, how to pleasure a woman.

    I had a girlfriend who's mom taught her to massage the prostate gland via the anus during oral sex to enhance the pleasure of the man. this is how i first experienced this pleasure, we were both 19, and it brought us very close and she was also impressed with my prowess in giving her clitoral stimulation with my mouth, something she never experienced before.
    We both brought up our gratitude at the dinner table when all our parents met. thank God we waited till the parents had a few cocktails in them and it went over well, and our parents got along like gangbusters.



    Now in that same light why can't it be accepted that two gay men teach their male child how to pleasure another man?
    or lets say for Lesbian parents to be able use what's available to them in our modern society and have their boy changed into a women with operation and hormone therapy.

    after all a parent is asked which sex they want for their "Hermaphrodite" child.

    i think maturity would go along way in people that enter this thread.
     
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    " Why can't Gay parents teach their kids to be gay..or at least teach them to try gay sex with other people when they grow up."? Because otherwise, the sentence is nonsensical. Do you mean just teaching them how gay sex works? Nothing wrong with that; most parents don't bother unless their child tells them that they're gay, because it's relevant for so few. Although prostate stimulation should be included in any decent "Here's what feels good" list.

    This is usually where I tune out.
     
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    your defending your mistake in judging my post with this explanation.

    Look , if the kid is given to gay parents from the government, don;t you think that after all the money the gay parents spend on him and time in bringing him up that they are not entitled to nudge him or her a little into the gay arena of life.

    and how else are you going to be able to that without having the child decide to try gay sex...

    look i do not consider myself gay at al...

    but i have had sex with trannies and men and lesbians.
    every now and then a real effeminate man comes along and i just have to have sex with him...does that make me gay?

    not at all...i'm a perfectly normal heterosexual male that has an eclectic taste in sex.
    i don;t even consider myself bisexual..

    i'm a normal guy ...

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    obviously i am the one who is explaining to you...is this some sort of scientology tactic to throw my guard off
     
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    Oh no my point is that I knew I was attracted to girls from long before high school- I would put it at 4th grade or so when I became really aware how nifty girls are, though I didn't realize exactly what I was feeling at the time.

    Odd, I knew I was attracted to girls far before high school. I never had any confusion on the issue of my sexual identity at all.

    Some of us figure this out earlier than others I guess.
     
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    Seriously? Do you think that the only way Gay men have sex is anal sex?

    Have you never been on the receiving end of oral sex- or is it that you just don't enjoy receiving oral sex?

    Here is how I know that I would not having sex with another man- I am not attracted to them. Men are hairy, scratchy and smell all wrong. They don't have the plumbing or other gender specific attributes that I sooooooo much like that women have. It has nothing to do with liking or not liking a prostate exam, it has to do with physical attraction- if my wife is watching "Dancing with the Stars", I am watching the scantily clad women, not the muscled men.

    But clearly we all approach these things in different ways- I can't expect everyone to be as clearly attracted to one gender as I am.
     
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    actually this is the worse form of parenting. children are not to be left to their own devices . and good parents always point their children into direction.

    the more directions the better the outcome.

    choices should be offered and made clear.

    you are living in a dr spock era of child rearing .

    get with the times.
     

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