whats wrong with gay married couples wanting their adopted kids to be gay

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Doc Dred, Oct 7, 2013.

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should gay parents be encouraged to teach their adopted to be gay

Poll closed Oct 29, 2013.
  1. yes

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    5.6%
  2. no

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  3. depends on the child

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  4. yes they are the parents and if it works for them , why not?

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  5. no, being gay is wrong, even though it is legal

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    11.1%
  6. children should not be taught sex at all

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  7. the whole sex thing is over rated

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  8. gay parents make better parents so we need more gays

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  9. adopted kids should follow in their parents footsteps

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. bisexulaity is the way to teach your kids

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  1. Doc Dred

    Doc Dred Banned

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    i have never stated that sexual orientation can be changed through any sort of discourse from a parent.

    i think gay people feeling threatened and they want it made clear they are born this way..why else would they ignore the tempest in my posts in order to reiterate their sexual orientation stance....which i have also stated i agree 100% until the hormones and the sex change operations take place ..which came from the whole topic of a mother who did this to her kid...i decided to explore with the nut and bolts of it all creating angst in the homo crowd and their need to clarify what they are...then you are left with a mess......

    now please stop denying the genius in my posts with this anxiety of yours..it's the homo insecurity that gets in the way of genius discussion...
     
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    A left handed person can learn to use his right hand with enough work, and often in the past parents would punish their left handed children for using that sinister hand.

    It doesn't make him a right handed person.
     
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    i have never stated that sexual orientation can be changed through any sort of discourse from a parent.

    i think gay people feeling threatened and they want it made clear they are born this way..why else would they ignore the tempest in my posts in order to reiterate their sexual orientation stance over and over again...
     
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    What are you even talking about?
     
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    people keep ignoring the content of my post and claiming that i think sexual orientation can be taught..so i need to post this to the death of this till it stops..
     
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    You're the one who stated that in the first place! You came in here with this very thread saying that gay people should teach their kids to be gay.

    We told you in no uncertain terms that no such thing should ever happen, and that kids should be allowed to be themselves, not taught a certain sexuality.

    What is a mystery to you at this point?
     
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    look i'm not here to solve your insecurities or your social problems ..i am here to make you and everyone else know what they are...point blank...

    teaching their kids to be gay does not mean changing their sexual orientation.

    go read all my posts in this and the other threads and see what i mean....

    then you can be allowed to accuse me of saying something i did not and meaning something i did not for you at least will then see why it was printed...

    to teach you what you really are...

    and everyone else here....

    i'm the doc!
     
  8. Doc Dred

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    if gay americans are going to accept themselves and get over their societal urges to have them feel sub human , they should act like it.
    If they want to marry each other and adopt children then they should realize the responsibilities that go with it and the fact they are sleeping in another room having anal sex and necking with each other whilst little Johny's majority of friends have a mom and dad moaning in the the other room.
    so wanting your kids to emulate you is all parents need ...deep down....and it's time that the real life experience of being an adopted kid in a gay house hold be made secure.

    Free from all nuance that would hinder the equal opportunities afford straight parents parenting their kids to their hearts content...

    gay men are generally far to insecure to realize what i am saying...and lesbians have their hormonal menstrual cycle adapting to their militant needs.

    so i shall produce a Gestalt...and help with the trauma....
     
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    And of course they do.

    Just like straight parents realize the responsibilities.

    Everything else in your post is just nonsense.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    There's nothing wrong with wanting the children you raise to be a certain way, what's wrong is when dangerous and mentally abusive methods are taken to try and make them a certain way.

    This goes for heterosexual parents raising a child who is not heterosexual and the same for homosexual parents raising a child who is not homosexual. Or even asexual parents raising a child who is not asexual, and so on and so forth. What a person's sexual orientation is is a very personal and private matter to that person and once they come of age and are considered a legal adult there is nothing the parent's can do.
     
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    You beat me to it.
     
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    Right!! It's as though he wrote that and did not consider the MEANING of the words he configured.

    Golly!! :)
     
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    If this thread isnt' a joke, the poll assumes that a parent can teach their children to be gay, straight, whatever. One can teach their kids about gayness, but they can't teach them to be gay.
     
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    There is is, right there!!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yes. You have it right!! Amen!!
     
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    More evidence that sexuality is predetermined (biological):

    You can't change people's sexuality, even at a young age.
     
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    Great points.

    Perhaps the notion/suggestion is that parents SHOULD teach ALL kids to be 'homophobic'; that it is somehow more correct and acceptable to do just that.

    That is the only other angle I can pull from the OP. Of course, that is something I would reject. Homophobia hurts/damages many more kids than simply being 'gay'.
     
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    If a parent tells their kid, "You must not be gay!" every day, and that kid ends up being gay, I can only imagine the extra problems that they'll face in life, trying to adjust and cope with the guilt.
     
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    Almost ALL gay baby boomers such as myself had to overcome the nearly continuous STIGMAS thrown at us as children and young adults.

    My hatred of homophobia isn't merely some 'attitude'; it's built directly into my character/personality.
     
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    Orphans are better in orphanages than loving homes with gay parents because kids adopted by gay couples will catch the gay. Straight boys will suddenly hate football and vagina and start listening to show tunes while practicing ballet. After all, it's so easy to change one's sexuality, interests, and culture.... like a gay light switch.

    On a more serious note: since conservatives hate paying taxes so much, why would they rather pay for the state to raise an orphan than a gay couple to raise that child?
     
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    Trust me, it's not fun. I've been through it. It takes along time to get over that.
     
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    first up..i'm not anti gay...seriously... thats your problem in seeing me as such. ..oh look under your bed ...a boogey man with a anti ray gay gun going to shoot you...

    I think growing up in toronto with an accepted gay community affords a different perspective on gay people.

    you don;t get my posts..you don;t see what i am trying to show you...your insecurities kick in , not entirelly your fault do to your american society and what it has done to gay people...but SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP AND GET OVER IT...
    the fact you cannot see the genius behind what i posted here and "MY AGENDA" and resort to calling me a troll...shows you are blinded by what ever has been done to you...maybe you are just prone to insecurity in the first place and we can;t blame society on it...

    but i have to say your lil temper tantrum here is laughable and tragic at the same time...
    the whole awesome thing is a sad touch for it shows the desperation that your circumstance has brought to you..

    all i am doing is posting genius to invoke change....one forum at a time....

    i used to have a sig back in a forum in the year 2001....

    I have dream when little gay children can walk hand and hand with little straight children. I have a dream.
     
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    hence my agenda....go look at my posts in here and my tactic back a few years when i first joined...
     
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    Yeah, but got it all wrong- no one should push any type of sexuality on a child.
     
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    You are absolutely anti gay.

    There are only 3 reasons why anyone opposes gay marriage.

    1. God says so.

    2. You oppose it because the political "right" in America does, basically because your team opposes it and that's all you hear.

    3. You think gay men kissing is icky, and you don't want it happening around you.

    The following reasons are just lies righties tell the filthy bigots so they don't realize what they really are.

    1. Prohibiting gay marriage protects straight marriage]

    2. Gay people shouldn't get tax breaks like straight marriage folks.

    3. Gay parents are inferior to straight parents.
     
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    this all started with the post about the woman being able to alter her kid with drugs and stuff...

    now that being said and the fact that the world has changed...i decide to post scenarios that both are fears of the ignorant and possibilities....it is possable that everything i posted can and will probably go down...

    because.. just because your gay does not mean you are not prone to being an idiot or a monster parent...

    so i post the worse case scenarios with the fact that they very well can perfectly play out without any government intervention..

    is it as bad as a straight parent or guardian raping their kids...bulling the 9 year old...yuppers...

    it has to be addressed...

    i can't even begin to think about it other than the way i post my art....
     

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