Locking citizens out and excluding citizens, from opportunities, is very far from Patriotism but very very close to atrocious. Especially when that exclusion was solely Race-based.
if ethiopians are caucasoid then greeks and romans are negroid. you cant have your cake and eat it too, im having some!
Color me perplexed. What area of racism has saved millions of lives? What is the good that is contained in racism. If racism has saved millions, its killed hundreds of millions. Based on net score alone, its a loser.
When a person is a bigot, they see only in one color. Take tribes of South America as an example. Race could get you dropped into a volcano. Being the right race also saved the lives of those not dropped into the volcano. Trouble with this topic is too many bigots only see black or white. They have no appreciation for being in a tribe and having that be the factor saving your life. Here is a view from a black man.
Take the case of a black man. (this is for convenience only and is by far not the sole example that can be made) His parents explain to him that blacks get beat up if they walk downtown after dusk by whites. So he trusts them. He later is told by some pals of his, go in a gang and be safe. So his choice is to not go downtown or go as a gang. Either way, race is why he hangs with blacks to avoid danger downtown. That is racism.
Your reply has racism imbedded in the reply. Trying to seem reasonable, you had to drag whites into it so you felt better discussing blacks who you admit have racists among their groups. But you did not need whites to prove blacks are racists. Note to readers. I put no value judgement on the color of racists. Since my case is that being a racist has saved lives. And of course cost other lives.
All racists are bigots. Not all bigots are racist. Second, primitive tribes in south america or anywhere else for that matter are all of the same race, just different tribes. It was tribalism. That tribalism is a mechanism for collective protection is one thing. to suggest its a benefit of racism/bigotry is almost cognitive dissonance. And naturally you'd select a COMEDIAN making a social comment for laughs as some sort of evidence for your argument. Now, can you actually come up with some "benefit of racism" that has saved millions of lives or is your misattribution the crux of your argument?
lol, says you, I am stating the facts, are you showing your racism getting upset with the facts? the fact is, there are both white and black racists
No, you did not notice your racism. I am sensitive to it since I have spent a lot of years thinking on this topic. Talking to others both white and black. Wanted to find out for myself if racism is a sole attribute either way. Was it evil? Was it accountable for good in history? I tried to take an unbigoted view and concluded it has elements both ways.
What you call Tribalism I call racism. They make value judgements based on appearances or societal attributes. Racism got a bad name in America due to things said by politicians.
Oh please. stop with the attempt to redefine the english language. Words matter. No wonder real dialogue and communication are so elusive.
You are correct, if you are saying that the only racists in this case are the Whites who beat up Blacks after dusk. Because the Black man in your case here cannot possibly be, racist, by trying to protect himself from the violent-evils of racists.
No, I gave an example of what should be called "Good Racism" and it is on the part of the blacks. Whites also defending themselves are also good racists.
The racists in this case are the parents who claim blacks will get beat up. Notice I did not claim the blacks got beaten up. And it helps their sons and I call that good racism on their part.
Humans are an ever-evolving, imperfect, often self-destructive species. Most likely always will be.
There's nothing wrong with this statement, within the context that in fact we are ALL racists. Oh yes, but when it comes to Racism then your statement is illogical. Thats because Black people's racism is meaningless, in a White-controlled society, since such societies always make sure that Blacks never possess anything which they can use to their advantage which = successful Racism. Like in America, Blacks own no Industries Blacks control no Markets and Blacks dictate no cultures, therefore their Racism is meaningless here.
I do not believe that at all. Though i did not use the term racism, it does not matter at all. If blacks racism is meaningless so is any by whites. It is not possible, absent a lot of law and use of force, to prevent others from advancing. Far too many blacks advance for us to accept they are held down. I have not seen a study claiming blacks have no ownership of industry but blacks currently running major corporations seem to show that is not how it works. They are in industry.
Apply that to the blacks who are racists and see if they manage to suppress whites in any way. It seems to me the politicians make a lot of this but in the practical world, it does not factor in the way the politicians allege it does.
Calling something "atrocious" isn't an argument. You're claiming jus sanguinis citizenship is an "atrocity". Sounds like a hysterical exaggeration to me.
If Human A uses his/her citizenship within a democracy, to deny opportunities to other citizens because of their Race, then yes Human A's citizenship is atrocious and it needs to be revoked. That is one helluva argument. And no it is not hysterical, nor exaggerating, but it is 'Justice' plus its ethical.
Just because you don't use the term does not mean this nation does not practice Racism. It is your choice, your Right, to play pretend about real life. Just like you did, when saying "If blacks racism is meaningless so is any by whites.". If asked, then .......Every honest, truthful person on Earth would never say that Blacks control America. But every honest, truthful person on Earth would always say that Whites control America. If you know that that is a factual statement then your honesty will also allow you to comprehend which of those 2 groups are therefore, meaningless, within perfecting their Racism onto a society. Racism requires power. Blacks have no power in a White-controlled society. We saw that within how, Obama, was not allowed to do anything for making life better exclusively for Black citizens ---who are subjugated worse than all other Racial groups in America. It is possible. Even GOP RightWing neo-con, the White Supremacist, Ann Coulter, recently said we owe Black people something because we (America) exist upon a legacy of Slavery and Jim Crow laws. Far too many blacks only advance, predominantly in the entertainment industries, for us to deny that Blacks are held down. America today is no different than the U.S. Slave Trade era when the best treated Blacks in America were the slaves who were hired to go plantation-to-plantation entertaining our White ancestors during their parties and galas and celebrations. This is a facade, and it has been used to fool you. Sort of like how we were all fooled and spooked into thinking a Black President meant America was about to get better for Black people. But in fact, Obama was only nominated by racism's Caucasian Dems thanks to his stealthy refusal to help his own Black people. Unlike the 43 Presidents before him, who each made sure to help their own White people. Even Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) said he basically voted for Obama because his skin color was light and not dark. That helps us understand how those hugely-successful Blacks of today, do not live their lives involved with the struggles of Black America. They are forced to live life, exactly like those racist White people who they keep company with daily. Which is usually the case for uppity-Blacks currently running major corporations Our racist country always rewards famous, wealthy Blacks who turn their backs on Black America. Then we give them the Colin Kaepernick treatment when they stand up for Black America.
