'When I Think of Donald Trump, I Do Think of Lincoln and Reagan'

Well good for you. Reagan was a good man and trump is criminal scum but I'm glad you're happy. It tells us all we need to know.

 

Sherman fought a war of attrition. Any military expert would teach you that to fight a war in the enemies territory after cutting your own supply lines, you need an advantage of at least 3 to one. Shermans men loved him. They called him "Uncle Billy" with affection because he valued their lives. Sure, he learned a lesson at Shiloh, but he became a leader that handed you your head in a handbasket and you cry about it to this day! He sent Hood packing up to Nashville where Thomas destroyed him.

Now, back to the letter where you say Sherman wanted to kill all the elderly, children and women.......CRICKETS!!!

 

Note: you completely overlook the economic #'s prior to China Virus and the fact we have become the world's top producer of fuel. How convenient. You also conveniently overlook that previous administrations , starting with Nixon, has sold us out to China, while Trump recognized the threat, campaigned on it, and has worked to turn it around. Again, how convenient.

 

Patently absurd. The agreement which was signed by ALL parties involved EXPLICITLY required fugitive slaves to be returned. A clause which, if not enacted, would have resulted in there being no constitution in the first place. The north then decided they didn’t want to follow it. Which is fine, but they can’t simply ignore it, they have to work to get the constitution amended. But they couldn’t so they simply refused to follow it. They were taken to the SCOTUS TWICE over this issue in Priggs v PA and Dred Scott and lost BOTH times with the scotus declaring they had to uphold the fugitive slave clause.

Furthermore your claim that the south saw they couldn’t expand slavery is ludicrous. In the Scott decision the scotus declared it was unconstitutional for the federal government to demand that a territory be nonslaveholding as a prerequisite of entry. Therefore slavery was going to expand westward and the north and their proxy the federal government could not abide by that because they were terrified of losing power. So what did they do? They simply ignored the SCOTUS and continued violating the constitution. At that point they are in breach of contract and the south had ZERO obligation to remain in the union.

You CANNOT refuse to uphold your obligations under a contract and then demand through threat of violence that the other side continues to uphold theirs. There’s not a court in the history of the world outside of a kangaroo court who would side with the former.

 

It was the "half black" clown that depleted those resources. Don't forget, Obama didn't have his worshipping news media spreading fear and panic with H-1. It killed thousands before Obongo lifted a finger!

 

What do we call someone who targets civilian populations in order to foment terror? If Sherman had engaged in these actions today he would be brought up for war crimes and hung like the traitorous animal he was.

As for his actions, what are you talking about? He stacked CIVILIAN population centers with no military presence. Who else was he murdering except for women, children and the elderly given that the vast majority of the men were in the field elsewhere?

 

Think you should just leave and go to Mexico like the President of the Confederacy tried to do. You never did produce the letters where Sherman wanted to kill women and children. I'm done.

 

Guess you can look at it this way, the "bloody Civil War" resulted from the Democrat drive to expand slavery into new territory and preserve their own way of life living on the backs of others.

 

Atalanta produce materials of War. Are you saying cowardly rebels abandoned their women and children using them as shields like the Arabs do? Retreating rebels set the fire. Still no letter. Shame! Read mine!

 

Actually, I was pointing out how Trump lives in the minds of white supremacists, not just rent free, they are paying him (mass accolades do have an intrinsic value) to be there. Isn't that a hoot?

 

This article references several letters from Sherman. Notice when he marches into S.C. there are ZERO soldiers in the state and yet he says he’s ready to let his army loose to rampage and to tell the people of S.C. he was coming. Who was he referring to when there were no soldiers?

November and December of this year mark the 150th anniversary of General William Tecumseh Sherman’s famous “march to the sea” at the end of the War to Prevent Southern Independence. The Lincoln cult – especially its hyper-warmongering neocon branch – has been holding conferences, celebrations, and commemorations while continuing to rewrite history to suit its statist biases. Business as usual, in other words. But they are not the only ones writing about the event. Historian Karen Stokes has published South Carolina Civilians in Sherman’s Path: Stories of Courage Amid Civil War Destruction that contains a great deal of very telling information about Sherman’s motivation in waging total war on the civilian population of South Carolina.

Stokes begins by quoting a letter that Sherman wrote to General Henry Halleck shortly before invading all-but-defenseless South Carolina: “[T]he whole army is burning with an insatiable desire to wreak vengeance upon South Carolina.” In another message a few weeks later, Sherman reiterated to Halleck that “The whole army is crazy to be turned loose in [South] Carolina.”

A New York newspaperman who was “embedded” with Sherman’s army (to use a contemporary term) wrote that “There can be no denial of the assertion that the feeling among the troops was one of extreme bitterness towards the people of the State of South Carolina.” The Philadelphia Inquirer cheered on as Sherman’s army raped, pillaged, burned, and plundered through the state, calling South Carolina “that accursed hotbed of treason.”

In a January 31, 1864 letter to Major R.M. Sawyer, Sherman explained the reason why he hated the South in general, and South Carolina in particular, so much. The war, he said “was the result of a false political doctrine that any and every people have a right to self-government.” In the same letter Sherman referred to states’ rights, freedom of conscience, and freedom of the press as “trash” that had “deluded the Southern people into war.”

Sherman’s subordinates expressed similar opinions. In 1865 Major George W. Nichols published a book about his exploits during Sherman’s “march” in which he describing South Carolinians as “the scum, the lower dregs of civilization” who are “not Americans; they are merely South Carolinians.” General Carl Schurz is quoted by Stokes as remarking that “South Carolina – the state which was looked upon by the Northern soldier as the principal instigator” of the war was “deserving of special punishment.”

All of this is so telling because it reveals that neither Sherman, nor his subordinate officers, nor the average “soldier” in his army, were motivated by anything having to do with slavery. South Carolina suffered more than any other state at the hands of Sherman’s raping, looting, plundering, murdering, and house-burning army because that is where the secession movement started. It was NOT because there were more slaves there than in other states, or because of anything else related to slavery. It was because South Carolinians, even more than other Southerners, did not believe in uncompromising obedience to the central state.

Your defense of that terrorist piece of trash makes me sick to my stomach and only serves to provide evidence that your position is based upon NOTHING more than base propaganda.

 

We hung people in WWII for engaging in that EXACT same strategy of targeting civilian population centers even though they produced materials of war. We declared people who engaged in that type of activity as war criminals and declared they should hang until they’re dead for that crime.

You don’t target civilians in war. You attack military targets. Not burning down people’s homes, raping their women and killing their children and elderly. That’s terrorism. Not a military tactic.

 

No, actually you making a mountain out of a molehill is more hilarious.

 

I wasn't alive for Lincoln.
But I was for Reagan.

But I don't remember either of them pointing fingers, pushing blame, and taking ZERO responsibility for anything.

How is the steel industry doing? Nothing much has improved for them.
How about the coal industry? Still closing down plants.
How's the wall that Mexico is paying for going?

You and I have a different view of success.
But to think Reagan and Lincoln were horrible people on top of shirking responsibility is a low blow to those great presidents.

It is not unnoticed, you listed not 1 accomplishment.

How's the replace and repeal of the ACA going. It's so easy.

 

LOL. Something similar did.
But the prepared gov't kept a lid on it.

Didn't tell the people of the country that 15 will go to ZERO.
Like magic it will go away.
What a great leader tRUMP is, eh? NOT.

You are one of the many who has never read the secession documents of the traitor states?

 

I have. Multiple times. You apparently have not. Furthermore the southerners were not traitors. The northerners were. That is easily demonstrable.

 

I posted a Sherman letter that was quite factual, and gentlemanly. You posted rabid propaganda hearsay. Sorry you are sick to your stomach. Take an ant acid 'cause here's more..... South Carolina was the beginning of what caused the loss of at least 1/2 million lives. Sherman and the Union Army stopped short of hanging traitors which was practically unprecedented in a rebellion. This was done also at the urging of Lincoln who you hate and despised. Rebels were allowed to keep their arms and return home.
You never posted the letter you 1st talked about when Sherman wasted to kill women and children. I want to see it.

Your President, Jeff Davis, dressed like the girl he was and ran, but was caught. I have admiration for Robert E. Lee, though I believe he was a little over rated as a General. Especially at Gettysburg.

 

Lol you’re so propagandized it’s absurd.

They didn’t “hang traitors” because to do so they would have had to give them a trial. But Lincoln had already been informed by the SCOTUS that if you bring these men up for treason we will have to rule in their favor.

https://www.uakron.edu/dotAsset/776296.pdf

“Early on, Chase “foresaw constitutional and legal problems of a formidable nature that would hamper if not foreclose a trial” for Davis.”

 

Dairy air....you repeated the same thing I said before, and for once I congratulate you for agreeing with a proven genius!

 

Question.....do you think Jackson had trials before he shot deserters?

 

As I told you and I will tell him, which you blatantly ignored (but I didn’t come crying back three or four times over it might I point out) the secession documents are very clear. The CAUSE for secession explicitly listed in ALL but one of the secession documents is the gross and repeated violation of the constitution by the northern states and their proxy the federal government. To provide EVIDENCE of that claim, they then reference slavery.

Slavery was the catalyst. It was not the cause. There’s a difference.

 

There’s a difference between being in the midst of combat and someone telling you they’re deserting and having a prisoner of war.

Of course given the willingness of the north to violate the constitution along with multiple direct orders of unconstitutionality from the SCOTUS, I don’t doubt a fair trial would have been forgone.

Which was the ENTIRE point of the civil war. The north violated the constitution and when they were taken to the highest court in the land and LOST... TWICE... they simply refused to adhere because they knew their proxy the federal government would never enforce the rulings. Which they didn’t.

The south had two choices. Either concede that the north and federal government can violate the constitution at will or they had to secede.

 

Their decision was clear. As Jefferson Davis put it, “I would rather leave the union with the constitution than to remain in the union without it.”

 

Had Lincoln lived, it is likely that Davis would not have been pursued nor would he have likely faced prosecution.
Took that from your own reference. Booth, by cowardly assasinating Lincoln, a man who desired to reconcile with the South, released the "dogs of war" who wanted to make the South pay. Sherman and Grant were two that stood in the way of what could have been a very vengeful act. Johnson made reconstruction a lot tougher than it could have been under Lincoln.

 

I don't know that Rebels had any Constitutional rights. They gave up their citizenship.