When your 11 year old has psychological issues; seek out an "unbiased" homosexual

The problem comes when sexual energy in society becomes imbalanced. When you get too much masculine, you create a cold and rigid warlike culture. And when you get too much feminine, you create a soft and sensitive feelings-based culture that doesn't know how to take care of itself. We are seeing the latter today all across the western world. On both sides of the Atlantic. And it will ultimately be the fall of western civilization when the history books are written if nothing is done to course-correct.

I could say the same thing to you.

Then you're definitely one of them. Not the latter but the former. I personally know people in the latter category. Quite a studious bunch.

Quick little life lesson here; if somebody told you that you would thank them for purchasing a Michael Moore book, that should raise a red flag. I own it too but only because I found it side by side in the dollar section at Half Price Books next to a critique of it called Michael Moore is a Big Fat Stupid White Man. And for two dollars, the temptation was too great walk away. The second book does a stellar job of eviscerating Moore's book in exposing numerous lies, hypocrisies, double standards, and other such trademark Mooreisms for which his has come to be known. If you still have the first book, I also recommend picking up the second one.

No. I want you to prove the absolute that you have just claimed. You acknowledge that it is entirely possible that not all cases of homosexuality are caused by the same things, and then you turn around and make a blanket statement that none of them are caused by X which you then produce no evidence for.

 

Citation needed?!?

Hahahahaha!!!

Don't believe our lyin' eyes, yes? Ha!

 

Is that why your avatar is a wife beating fake tough guy? You know who rolls around on a mat with other oiled up men for entertainment and has to take steroids to feel more manly?

 

Translation: "Manly things scare me. And I have been programmed by feminist culture to do exactly what Unifier is talking about - to associate masculinity with something negative."

 

And as previously pointed out, the solid evidence for this is utterly lacking, and pretty much exclusively anecdotal in nature.

Which would certainly help your case if I was making wide, sweeping claims about societal trends with little information to back it up.

To be fair, I just unironically enjoyed "Equestria Girls" with my girlfriend, so there may be something to that.

Waaaay ahead of you. Trust me. A lot of the book is quite funny, but it's so utterly bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that it's really hard to enjoy.

The "proof" is the basic models of sexuality we have constructed, as well as the fact that Freud's work in that area has been pretty much completely canned.

Well, I'm not going to take your word for it, if that's what you mean.

Wrestling's fake.

 

Water is wet. Do I need a citation?

 

Please stop. I've already shown you you're wrong on that count. What you're angry about is that gay people like me can now do "manly" things like play hockey without fear of discrimination. "Manly" things like that are on the rise here in Chi-town, not on the wane, and we're a liberal city. I quit my all-gay team this summer. I sent out an email letting other guys in the league I play with know, so that they heard it from me and not through the grapevine.

You know what happened? In the space of five minutes I got many emails asking if I needed a team and if I would like to try out for the fall season with several straight teams. So I went and tried out for one that I thought would suit me. As a result, I got the starting goalie spot on a team of great players. I could not have asked to be with a better bunch of guys.

Here's the kicker- my captain is a Muslim. I did not find that til last week. That freaked me out, as I thought I might be in a bad situation. BUT, my captain did pick me knowing I was gay.

I don't have a car, and he picks me up for practice most of the time. I asked him on the way to the rink last week, "OK, you're a Muslim, right?" "Yeah." "And you know I'm gay." "Yeah."

"So why am I on this team? Muslims hate gay people. We're your biggest targets all over the world. I don't think I have to tell you what is done to people like me in Muslim countries."

He says, "Yeah, I know. I'm sorry for that. I want you to know that I am not like that at all. I picked you for the team because you were the best goalie who tried out. I knew you were previously on the gay team ahead of time. That's not an issue for me. Not all Muslims hate gay people- and I even think you should have the right to get married. The bottom line is, I saw you play, and I knew I wanted you on my team. And trust me, I was very skeptical at tryouts, but you were recommended by a few of the guys. I said to myself before the tryout, 'A gay guy who plays goal, yeah right. Not gonna be good.' But I was wrong. So if I was wrong about you, can you also give me the benefit of the doubt?"

Oh crap. You all know that I rail against Islam all the time in here. Now I have to rethink that too. But that is what makes life interesting. We all learn all the time if we want to.

The US is not being "feminized". If anything, it's becoming more inclusive, and that's a good thing.

 

Hey, I've got an idea! Let's compare a simple basic fact that anyone can check in an instant by running their hand under a tap with a massive societal phenomenon which is incredibly difficult to quantify! That's so fair!

 

And that’s why, even at such a young age, he has chosen to live in the world as the opposite sex, and not keep it a secret.

Unless he's managed to change his DNA, I'm not sure how one would accomplish that. Why can't he he just be a male who does not conform to contemporary gender norms? Why must he be designated as a "female" when CLEARLY that is not the case?

 

There is no such thing, because masculinity is inherently self-regulating. A man who is "too masculine" is only trying to hide, even from himself, his Inner Bytch.

Because the second option lends more credibility - at least among the credulous - to the idea that God messed up.

 

You just don't get it. And you're not going to. Because you simply don't want to. That's the choice you've made. We're done here.

 

I wish I could agree with this, but I'd just be playing favorites. The truth is that nature has a very important system of yin and yang at work. When in harmony, the masculine and feminine help to regulate one another. But when the two become out of whack, all kinds of bad things happen.

The biggest problem today is too many ignorant people trying to act like they are the same thing. They are polar opposites by design because they were created for complimentary roles. When you tamper with those roles, you end up with a dysfunctional species. Much like we have today.

 

I disagree. Do not confuse openness to discussing things with increasing numbers of things. We talk more about this kind of thing than once we did as societies, this has been healthy.

 

Actually the only way they can be in harmony is if the man needs no "feminine regulation", because otherwise the woman will end up with power over him that is not rightly hers to wield, whether she wants it or not. Why else do you think men have become so emasculated?

That is merely a symptom of a feminized culture, which itself is a consequence of men caring more for how women make them feel than they do for the voice of conscience.

 

I'm sorry, but wait one minute- who designated you as God? I'm curious. You apparently have all the answers, so I'm wondering.

 

Oh no- I get it just fine. You're pissed off because people like me are just as capable and just as good as you. You really hate that.

Your thing is this, "OMG- gay people and transgendered people can also do what I can! No way is that possible, and I'm never gonna accept that!"

That's you, man. And now that the rest of society is getting it, you can't stand it. Nope, I get it just fine.

So be done with me. I'm certainly done with you. You're not a Unifier, you're a Divider.

 

wait a minute!!!!!! Are you telling me that you were recruited based solely on your skills? WOW, imagine that. And, that was with just a plain ole hockey league which needs no labels about your sex lives, it's just about hockey. Funny that

Congratulations on learning the truth about the 96.6%er's. We don't care what you do in your bedroom, just don't shove it in our faces. If we want a hockey player then we're looking for hockey players, no more, no less. If we want a dentist then we want a dentist, that's it.

 

If this is the case, everything should be peachy, right? Although looking at the number of "gays are the bane of our civilization" threads here, I have some doubt whether what you say is true.

 

No, that's just you. At least, what you claim. You are not representational of reality, though, and just a cursory look through this forum finds that the majority of those who are not supportive of gay rights hold a far less tolerant view point.

 

that is your opinion to which I call "bullcrap"

I seriously doubt that anyone could give a rats behind about what I do in my bedroom any more than what you do in yours. If they call the police, they want a policeman to arrive. It doesn't matter what the cop does in his/her bedroom.

 

This is called absconding from reality, plain and simple. Just because you see yourself as "tolerant" does not mean everyone else is. There's a whole world of people out there beyond yourself, to many of whom it matters DEEPLY who a person loves/has sex with.

 

And that's why Exodus International was such big business. And that's why Michele Bachmann's husband can get applauded by many republicans for claiming that homosexuals are like animals that need to be tamed. And that's why it's somehow still seen as socially acceptable in many circles to imply that homosexuality is a mental illness. And that's why somehow, Protectionist, funinsnow, and Silhouette haven't seen repercussions from the type of posts that, against racial or political groups, would see instant flamebait warnings. That's why in most states, there's still a fairly influential anti-gay lobby. And that's why, until 2000, it was illegal for homosexuals to have sex in some states, and high-standing politicians like Santorum can say that they advocate a return to those laws without losing face among his followers.

People do care about homosexuality, and part of the reason is the lies people like you unwittingly propagate.

 

I finally see your problem. You assume that people who believe in individuals and liberty, and not protected groups, are anti-homosexual.

That explains why you are so misguided and ill informed. Not wanting to provide a protected class status to a group which is not a different race/gender/species does not make one to be anti anything

 

Should religion be a protected class?

 

Funny, seeing as I don't believe that there should be protected groups or hate crime laws. So... I assume that I'm anti-homosexual? Quote me advocating that or (*)(*)(*)(*) off.

And this is exactly what I am talking about.

I have demonstrated to you on numerous occasions that homosexuality is more than just "who you sleep with". I have made it very clear, I have cited countless reputable sources within the discipline of psychology, and your response? You ignored it. You ignored the facts I presented, and continued to make the stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claim that homosexuality is just who you sleep with. You have no interest in debate, you have interest in spreading raw sewage all over the debate. (*)(*)(*)(*) off.