Where did the wives of Cain and Abel come from?

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  1. Margot2

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    More like 1400 BC and that's a stretch.
     
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    Like the royal families of Europe who all married first cousins - except for the Russians that is. The Church would only allow it if it they were once removed - like marrying the child of a first cousin. All the royals were descendants of King Christian of Denmark, Queen Victoria or both, and she carried a mutant gene for hemophilia. It destroyed the Romanov's and almost all of them in the end.
     
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    Santorini erupted a couple hundred years before Abraham existed. The river basin between the Tigris and Euphrates is flat .. no mountains for a flood to cover.
     
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    Still just saying words, without any evidence.
     
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    There is NO evidence that Abraham ever existed a all.. He may be a literary device.
     
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    Still just saying things.
     
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    Seems to me that love is a biological driven emotion not an intellectual one.

    All religions can be seen as simply variations on your theme of a "connective Force buinding humanity". Something greater than the individual but still is part of that individual. Helps with the curse of our sapience - knowledge of our own fragile individual mortality.
     
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    Love can't be biological, or we wouldn't love our pets, and it's not intellectual or it wouldn't exist in children or the mentally handicapped.
     
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    And yet someone somehow, had to make that break from paganism into a truer revelation of God.
     
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    No Biblical Scholar I have ever heard of thinks that the Hebrews escaped from Egypt 2100-2300 BC. Abraham is thought to have lived around 1800-2000 BC with most scholars favoring closer to 1800 BC as one of the kings mentioned is thought be Hammurabi.

    I have never heard a dating of Abraham - hundreds of years prior to 2300 BC.

    Regardless - there are many reasons why a Global Flood - as described in the Bible/ killing all land creatures - simply did not happen .. even if we were to put Abraham in 4000 BC -a date which is simply not possible from the textual evidence.

    We have ice cores dating back hundreds of thousands of years .. there is no evidence of a global flood. If there was such a flood you should be able to dig down a few meters in the midwest - and every other similar inland location on the planet - and find the flood layer. It is not there - in any of these locations.

    Then there is the problem of how Noah and 3 sons managed to collect 2 of every land species on the planet. This is simply not possible. How long do you think it would have taken Noah and sons (assuming this would have been possible which is a stretch) to collect 2 polar bears from the Arctic, 2 Spectacled Bears from South America, 2 Panda's from China, and 2 Kangaroo's from Australia ?
     
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    Of course it can be biological. Its part of our reproductive chemistry. It is the chemical reactions we "feel". Emotional responses to certain stimuli. It has nothing to do with either "intelligence or knowledge". It does have a lot to do with personality tho, since that represents the individual's "control" mechanisms.
     
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    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6&version=KJV

    Noah and his sons didn't get the animals God brought them to the Ark and had them board, who cares how other than that? He is God and has multitudes of angels surely they could use many means to do so. There is no account of food or water on the Ark so that's not important. And they likely were returned or anything else so that also doesn't need to be considered.
     
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    China, America, Turkey and Egypt were never flooded. Saudi Arabia was never flooded..

    Where was this worldwide flood again?
     
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    It was gradual..At first the Jews shared the Canaanite pantheon.

    Gradually they became Monolatrists .. at least according to the Bible.

    Genesis 3:22

    And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:
     
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    The biblical Abraham is a disgusting character, real or imaginary.
     
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    I see.....so it's a true story because an old book says so and who cares if it is impossible because that need not be considered when evaluating its truth. Just like we can blow off Bilbos magic ring because"Tthe Hobbit" is automatically true and Gandalf had huge Eagles to make it all for reals.
     
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    They must have met their wives at the corner deli sending back soup for being too cold....
     
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    There is no mention that Abel was married. According to the fairy tale he was the first priest.
     
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    Actually Abel was the first gay child molesting priest...first of a long, proud line.
     
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    That's an interesting take on the character.
     
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    Adam and Eve never existed, they were a misremembered account of aliens coming to earth and genetically engineering humans by splicing their own DNA into that of Neanderthals. The name Adam comes from the ancient Sumerian name Adamu, which means First Man. The biblical creation story was a misremembered version of this story.
     
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    So where did these magical space aliens come from, the next solar system or one from 80 light years distance?
     

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