Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

It has been over 2 1/2 YEARS since I made this thread and in all that time and 724 posts without a since post addressing the CONTENT of post one article the avoidance of it is simply amazing yet somehow without a shred of evidence thinks it is bad.

HA HA HA!!!

Post one article continues to remain unchallenged.

 

Phil Clarke fell for that junk paper really embarrassing.

 

Still ZERO attempts are refuting any of the content of the article by warmist/alarmists who show their fear of real data abundantly shown in the article from all the main official database sources.

The article has been getting updated the most recent one is quoted,

LINK

He has been improving his article with better charts and more detailed information to the existing article..

 

The data/graph in the OP is the best data available. It’s the data used by everyone from USAID to the WHO.

https://www.emdat.be/history

Also, this data is used by places like Our World in Data which I’ve never heard referred to as illegitimate or unreliable.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorer...span=Annual&Per+capita=true&country=~OWID_WRL




I don’t know anything about the article. But the data is factual. Climate related natural disaster deaths have absolutely plummeted over time as temps have increased. That’s just an inconvenient truth.

 

Ask the parts of the US getting ripped up by increasingly powerful and frequent storms where the climate emergency is.

 

First you have to show there is a significant increase of it happening meanwhile from 2006 to 2017 there were ZERO landfalling major hurricanes, how do you explain that?

But I know you will fail because there is no significant change as made clear in the post one article you never read,

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"Storminess has not gone up, and there’s been no increase in hurricane strength or frequency … no “emergency” there.

First, the strength.



And here is the global hurricane frequency, both for all hurricanes and for the strongest hurricanes.



LINK

The 12 months from April 2021 to May 2022 have seen close to the fewest major hurricanes in more than 40 years.

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The data doesn't agree with you.

 

Akshually, this is only addressing tropical cyclones, as in hurricanes and typhoons. I'm thinking more about the recent storms that have been ravaging the country coast to coast as we have seen growing temperature extremes fueling such storms.

Our climate has been changing pretty rapidly, and there are other data points that easily corroborate this. The loss of arctic ice is an observed, undeniable reality. The increase in ocean temperatures is an observed reality. The shifting weather patterns all around the world are an observed reality. I'm sorry if this isn't happening quite rapidly or severely enough in just a matter of decades to satisfy you, but it is happening nonetheless.

 

So far you are talking about WEATHER events which you again neglect to post specifics.

The article shows that the IPCC themselves don't agree with you neither does the NOAA who shows a marked DECLINE of strong tornado frequency,

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Strong tornadoes in the US are steadily decreasing over the last 72 years.



And here is the Rutgers Snow Labatory’s snow extent data from 1972 to April 2023 … basically, no change.



Nor are the extremes in the amount of moisture (droughts, floods) increasing in the US.



Death rate from weather events dropped massively over 100 years' time,



I could go on and on showing there is no climate emergency developing it is all media propaganda.

 

Durandal writes,

Climate regions of the planet are many and most of them of them have changed too little to matter. Have you bothered to follow the Koppen Climate Classification LINK

Mine is BSk which is the same now as it was in 1964 when I moved there and actually unchanged since the Interglacial period started around 12,000 years ago it is the same in most parts of the world since deserts are still deserts, rain forests are still rain forests and so on you are reacting to WEATHER events.

The Arctic ice loss decline has stopped about 16 years ago now stabilized at a lower value than it was in the 1990's mainly due to the warm AMO phase which has peaked and forecast to decline soon. There were times in the early interglacial period up to the MWP of little to NO summer ice, yet the world went on and the Polar bears are still here in elevated numbers of today.

The Ocean waters are dominantly warmed by the sun which CO2 has nothing to do with as it doesn't absorb Visible light and UV at all.

Climates are NOT changing rapidly that is media fueled propaganda you are reacting to WEATHER events which are being blown out of proportion.

There is NO climate crisis to worry about.

 

Oh, right, you mean the ones made up by anti-fossil-fuel scaremongers, which have no basis in empirical fact.

Try looking at actual data rather than just believing whatever dishonest scare stories the mainstream media have been told to noise about.

The most credible empirical data points show that our climate has recently been changing about as rapidly as it has for thousands of years.

Which has occurred since the end of a three-decade cooling trend ~1945-1975. There is no credible empirical evidence -- none -- that arctic ice is scarcer now than it was in the early 1940s.

Since the end of the coldest 500-year period in the last 10,000 years....

Will you please think?

And have been for all of known history.

Evidence that it is happening any more now than it has many times in the past...?

Thought not.

 

We should be celebrating the benefits of CO2.
World Cereal Production Set To Hit Record High In 2023
Guest Blogger
It’s all a very different story to the one fed to us by the media, with their lies of how extreme weather and droughts are supposedly impacting food supply. . . .

 

Like big floods? Let’s look at evidence!

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2021WR030480

 

The planet loves all that additional CO2 as NASA tells us plainly:

Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds

Karl B. Hille
APR 26, 2016

Excerpt:

From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

LINK

 

It has been 10 days since you last replied to my post #728 which you didn't address at all but make this unsupported statement which you never backed up on your next and last reply:

I wrote,

Your evidence free reply,

Which I duly replied in the next two posts showing there is NO increase in Tornadoes or Cyclones at all.

You second and last reply before you ran away being overcome by a barrage of evidence I posted that you ignored,

Arctic Sea ice decline STOPPED about 16 years ago which means you are not following the data at all and again you make a statement without any evidence to support your claim thus you are batting ZERO after two posts.

Climate isn't changing rapidly a lie the media and government produces a lot and what you keep yapping about is WEATHER events which I have already addressed several times that varies year by year and showed the death rate to bad weather has plummeted over 90% in the last 100 years all facts I posted in front of you which you ignored and run away.

Not impressed.

 

A month later still ZERO replies from warmist/alarmists over the content of the article thus it remains unaddressed therefore unrefuted.

30 pages zero counterpoint to the content of the article it is simply amazing at the futility of the climate cultists ability to address it.

There is still no Climate Emergency.

 

From post #1 article which ALL warmists/Alarmists still stay away in abject terror after 3 years it was published:

It has NEVER been answered here and in two other forums I posted not even once..... bwahahahahahahahahahaha that is how effective it is because climate cultists KNOWS they can't address it because the data are from baseline sources such as the NOAA, NASA, IMBIE, and many more.

 

There are none.

 

Oh, well that's a relief.

 

It happens to be the truth which I made factually clear many times.

 

Yes, replacing false and absurd scare narratives with facts can have a calming effect.

 

Facts:

Coastal wetlands can’t keep pace with sea-level rise, and infrastructure is leaving them nowhere to go
Published: April 8, 2024 8:23am EDT

Wetlands have flourished along the world’s coastlines for thousands of years, playing valuable roles in the lives of people and wildlife. They protect the land from storm surge, stop seawater from contaminating drinking water supplies, and create habitat for birds, fish and threatened species.

Much of that may be gone in a matter of decades.

As the planet warms, sea level rises at an ever-faster rate. Wetlands have generally kept pace by building upward and creeping inland a few meters per year. But raised roadbeds, cities, farms and increasing land elevation can leave wetlands with nowhere to go. Sea-level rise projections for midcentury suggest the waterline will be shifting 15 to 100 times faster than wetland migration has been clocked.

... https://theconversation.com/coastal...tructure-is-leaving-them-nowhere-to-go-226851​

I can't say that I find them calming.

 

There's a downward trend in hurricanes.
Global Warming Inhibits Hurricane Activity as Indicated By Decreasing Tropical CAPE Values
by John Shewchuk
Tropical cyclone data from global sources show that tropical cyclone activity is slowly decreasing during global warming. . . .

Figure 1 shows hurricane activity from 1980 to 2023. The light grey linear trend line reflects the slow trend of decreasing hurricane activity.


Figure 1. Global hurricanes (Categories 1 to 5) from 1980 to 2023, with a 5-year centered weighted smoothing filter, and a thin grey linear trend line. Data source: https://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Realtime/index.php?arch&loc=global

 

Subsidence and coastal development are much more threatening than sea level rise.

 

Not only that building right at the coastline was an obvious risk as it was inevitable that sea level will rise or fall in the future which produce damaging effects on human habitation which mother nature doesn't give a **** about.

Wetlands have come and go for millions of years it is a natural process just as large volcano eruptions destroy large areas that takes decades or more to recover which has been going on for many millions of years as well repeat for massive wildfires, glacial advances and more.

This isn't any examples of climate emergency developing!

 

This claim has been answered why can't you make a counterpoint to it maybe because the NOAA doesn't agree with you which is why you backed off?