Where is the answer to this mess?

Here's a fresh idea:

Democracy!!

We could insist on equal representation of citizens! We could end the current assault on democracy.

We might look at what it is we stand for in our founding documents and consider other directions, too. For example, we could demand equal treatment, rather than support the killing of minorities.

If we got REALLY carried away, maybe we could cooperate on fighting this pandemic. I know that's asking a lot, but it sure would be nice to get back to where we were before.


I don't believe our system works well when we attack its core principles. And, today we have a system that is sprinkled with those who fully support insurrection!!

 

Equal opportunity doesn't come in the form of welfare. It exists in the fabric of a first world democracy.

 

No, they MANAGE it. That's what maturity means .. to be the master of your base urges.

The expectation of a civil society, in a populace conditioned to run with their base urges, is utterly delusional.

 

The plan we're working on as it stands now does not reform finances or campaigns. Not necessary. I don't mean they don't need to change, but that they will change if we succeed. We won't have to do that. Congress will. Trust me, we've sliced and diced this a hundred ways. Part of the trick is that you have to have a deal nobody can refuse.....

 

I'm not the govt.

 

If you believe these people are “managing” our country then I will just have to simply disagree

 

While exceptions exist for everything,and I'm fully aware of that. However, it's more the exception than the rule. The big picture is heavily weighted toward the benefits of experience, wisdom and those with a record of success. There are a lot more wise old people than wise young people. That's not an insult to the young, but someone who has had 40 years to deal with problems will have a lot more savvy about things than one who's spent 2 or 3. There are people who are going to die stupid, no question. Some of them are young today, and they are never going to figure it out.

You can read all the books, listen to people explain, and think things over- but until you've actually hit the street and made the trip.... You are as they used to say- a greenhorn.
There's an old joke line about how this 18 year old guy thought his father was a fool, but at age 40 decided his dad had learned a lot since then.

 

Irrelevant. You AGREED that personal circumstances should not be grounds for assistance.

 

Where did I say that?

 

Yep, personal circumstances should not be grounds for denial of govt assistance.

 

Why not just admit that you ****ed up. Growth happens when we acknowlegde our errors.

 

Yep this is the way it works, personal circumstances should not be grounds for denial of govt assistance.

 

Too late buddy.

 

And it still works that way.

 

It is seldom the government that provides those. It can at best make it possible to acheive those things but there is little government can do to compel their existence.

 

On the contrary ... it's the Govt which brought about this failure of the survival instinct. If they can do it, they can undo it.

 

Sorry no there are something's that once broken by the government cannot be mended by the government. The human spirit is one of those. The best it can do is make sure that the people it broke don't in turn break others, and stop funding the policies that break people.

 

Yeah we could quit voting for Democrats tomorrow. That would almost immefiaty end the assault on Democracy...

 

Yes, that. That's all they need to do. Replace the broken system with one which actually improves the human condition.

 

That's easy to say.

You need to say what system would "actually improve the human condition."

 

One which doesn't disable people, but rather empowers them.

 

You believe our founding documents call for the killing of minorities?

Oh boy...

 

This is a cheap and ridiculous assault on the idea that humans are advancing in knowledge and that education has value.

It's especially bad coming at a time when the jobs that support the desired lifestyle are leaving the manufacturing sector and moving toward innovation, high technology, automation, clean energy, etc.

Not only that, but our population density is changing, as is our total population. Beyond that, we are becoming more diverse.

The answers to issues related to THAT also require education.

 

That's an adjectival phrase, NOT an answer.

 

LOL

No, the issue is that FAR too many people see our founding documents as TOTAL CRAP.

Unfortunately, even our FOUNDERS didn't believe what they wrote - they just knew what needed to happen.

You don't write about equal treatment, voting rights, etc., and then own slaves.

And, that follows through to today, when Republicans FOCUS on reducing people's ability to vote based on factors they see as politically advantageous, AND see it as FINE that insurrectionists attempted to defeat our democracy both politically (through fomenting lies) and by direct assault with stated intent to kill our congressmen and VP.

So, yes. It's necessary to look back to our founding documents.

We have to stop seeing those documents as TOTAL CRAP.