Where is the proof that the airliners existed at all?

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  1. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    Your question does not constitute proof that any given bit of wreckage can be attributed to any given aircraft. without checking, the bits could simply be random scrap metal pulled from an aircraft bone-yard.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    bone yard...:roll:
     
  3. genericBob

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    obviously the opposition doesn't have a rebuttal ......

    sorry about that ......
     
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    Rickity Plumber Banned

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    My God man, what is it you want? What do you hope to accomplish?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You want us to dispute the biased point of view of a conspiracy theorist?

    What's the point.

    You aren't here for objective debate. You are here to perpetrate your position and defend it.
     
  6. genericBob

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    This is exactly what I'm getting at, rather than provide a fact based rebuttal to the statements I've made, the opposition attacks me, proving beyond any doubt that the events of 9/11/2001 = FALSE FLAG ATTACK
    Where is the PROOF that the airliners existed at all, that is HARD EVIDENCE?
    there are all sorts of forensic tools available, and exactly what was done to confirm the allegation that the bits of aluminum found in 4 different locations were indeed from "FLT11" or "FLT175" or "FLT77" or "FLT93"?
     
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    Yes I do make that claim because 9/11 truth insists that the buildings were brought down with explosives planted by 'da gubmint' or some other nefarious agency, and then they flew aircraft into the buildings which burned for about an hour before the bombs went off.

    Yep, that's illogical. Thanks for evading my real point. Nice dodge.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because people attack your ridiculous assertion, that means it was a flaw flag?

    You get your rocks off dreaming about a flase flag attack. That's your issue and your responsibility to prove.

    Asking us to prove a negative doesn't make a fact.

    Prove the planes didn't exist. I can prove the buildings didn't come down from explosives.
     
  9. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Oh that was a rebuttal....as much as your ludicrous scenario deserves....
     
  10. genericBob

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    This should be good ........
    OK, show me ....................
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Proof planes existed:

    Passenger manifests, phone calls from victims on board, RADAR, Air Traffic Control recordings, debris, witnesses, the fact people fueled, loaded, boarded and departed on the aircrafts, I've personally spoken to people who were involved with the aircraft on that day, an air traffic controller and the boston center military coordinator. All this information can be found in an easy google search, half of it even on my own youtube channel. If you honestly believe no planes existed then you are totally ****ing mental.
     
  12. genericBob

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    Do you actually accept the phone calls as REAL?
    even after the evidence has been presented that PROVES
    you can't make cell phone calls from an aircraft flying above 10,000 ft?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    No 'evidence' proved that.....Besides,most of the calls were from airphones...
     
  14. genericBob

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    So you deny scientific proof that cell phone calls can not be made from airliners in flight and also "most" calls having been made from airphones still leaves some of the calls having been made from cell phones and obviously you do NOT understand anything about how cell phones work, there are lots of reasons why cell phone calls can not be made from an airliner in flight, have you actually looked at any of the scientific info on this subject?
     
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    All but two of the calls made from the passenger planes were from airphones. Not cellphones. The only two cellphone calls which were made came from UAL93 when it was flying around 8,000ft, and both were short lived and had to be attempted several times because they kept dropping out. So you can shove that failed debunked reasoning.

    People talked to loved ones. They gave them details of exactly what was happening on board. If you're implying it was all fake then you are also saying that every single one of the victims families are also part of the conspiracy.

    Mental. Totally f*ing mental. See a doctor.
     
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    Two things: first the aircraft that was the alleged "FLT77" did not have airphones installed ..... and also the above note about all of the victims families being in on the conspiracy and of course that could not possibly be true, therefore there isn't any conspiracy, right...... Please think about the evidence having been presented, rather than the standard procedure of accounting for the aircraft, 4 airliner crashes ( or should I say alleged airliner crashes ) were cleaned up without having any accounting, that is how much by weight or volume was collected up and of that, what bits were forensically tested to verify that said bit was actually from the aircraft in question? Where is the PROOF that any of the 4 alleged hijacked airliners was real at all?
     
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    AA-77 did in fact have airphones installed on the back of the seats on 9/11,as 2 calls from Renee May,one call from Barbara Olsen and 5 calls from unknown callers were placed with them
    They were in fact,presented as evidence in the Moussaoui trial...



    fail,AGAIN
     
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    The idea that AAL77 did not have airphones was fabricated by david ray griffin who took an article that AAL77 made the decision to remove all airphones from domestic flights in 2001. Sure, they made the decision before 9/11 but no work orders began on that until 2002 and 2003. John Hotard from American Airlines confirmed that no work had been done on AAL77.

    All flights on 9/11 had airphones.
    All flights had people family members on airphones.
    You cannot fake something like that. If you think so, it is because you are insane.
     
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    I would have to do some serious detective work to get confirm or not on that airphone bit, HOWEVER, if the phone calls prove that there were airliners, WHERE ARE THE AIRLINERS? The wreckage shown in the available pix does not prove the validity of the hijacked airliners claim. Where is the accounting for the aircraft? ( 4 X )
     
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    Considering I watched a Jet Airliner strike the sencond tower live....it can safely be said...YES...airliners struck the towers.

    AboveAlha
     
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    Where were you when it happened? I'm curious, how close to the tower were you? how much warning did you get from the sound of the aircraft?
     
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    I watched it live on TV....I was then called in to Langley and went to the Pentagon shortly after.

    There were aircraft pieces all over the place along with the smell of jet fuel which is a very specific smell and not at all like the smell of Solid Rocket Fuel.

    Worse of all was the smell of Death as there was tiny pieces of bone, organs, intestines and what was in them and flesh everywhere.

    There is no question what happened.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    yeh couple bricks of c4 and 5 gallon pail of fuel oil will make the same smell.

    I watched the news anchor disappear live on tv too! and captain kirk go right through the wall and the puddle jumper go into the star gate!!

    [​IMG]


    Son yer a witness?

    Yes yer hunner I SAW IT ON TV!!!!!
     
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    :eyepopping:
     
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