Which political group do you consider yourself closest to?

This just exposes the stupidity of the left. Democrats have tried for years to shed their history of hating minorities, especially blacks and Jews. In times like this they show their true selves, vile hateful people

 

The poison of Marxism also has something to do with it. Marxists need to divide most things into two groups, the oppressed and the oppressors. Since Israel is prosperous and successful, they are the oppressors. The fact that Hamas has a dictatorial system also appears to Marxists. They share a desire for a system of top down authoritarian rule.

The Marxists have aligned with radical Islam because both oppose the establishment and want to bring it down. If they ever succeeded, they would go after each other. I hope we never see that day.

 

Here you can read a little about the American viewpoint that opposes yours.
https://www.heritage.org/progressiv...t/#The Fundamental Design of Cultural Marxism

 

If white supremacists were anything like you say they are and like the DOJ projects, like they were say in the 1920's, they'd go into D.C. today and clean out those crowds with night sticks. They had just as much hate for Arabs as any other race!

 

Name these anti semites?
Sure there are some. 1 of them I believe happens to be from Palestine?

Unlike MAGA, people in a party can have different opinions.
There's at least 2 sides to every conflict. There's no perfect good or bad guys.

 

Take it to the marxism thread.
There's no group in the OP related to marxism. It simply is almost non existent in USA.
Don't derail this one. Anymore.

 

Like I say?
I simply said, White supremacists are against Jews. And there's history that proves this. Over and over.

 

"One has to wonder how Trump would be viewed if I could wave a magic wand and get rid of all the fake nonsense that surrounds him and his image."

Getting rid of all the fake news and nonsense would require getting rid of the Democrat Party. Are you ready for that?

 

Don't know why that is your focus now when the biggest Jew haters are mostly of "brown" skin with their virtue signalling white accomplices in America!

 

Raising interest rates (the Federal Funds rate) a LOT more than the Fed already has is an intuitive course of action. Remember how Fed. Chairman, Paul Volcker and Ronald Reagan whipped 20%+ inflation back in the time period of 1981 - 1984? It is going to take THAT kind of action, taken without regard for how much it will affect a herd of stock market gamblers for a while.

At the same time, we must (MUST) cut spending, drastically. And, no, Dairy, it can't come from Social Security -- at least not until 2033 or 2035. Surely I don't need to remind you that Social Security is not some 'welfare' program. No! It is a TRUST FUND, and the Federal Government is OBLIGATED to pay its debts to this trust fund at the top of the list. But never fear, we've got LOTS of other areas where we could cut megatons of funding, especially in government welfare programs, "subsidies", and "services"....

The process of "borrowing" money from the SS Trust Fund was something dreamed up by liberal Democrat, Lyndon Johnson, to help fund his wretched Vietnam War... and unfortunately, once the government was able to issue "IOU's" for the Social Security trust fund, it never stopped. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't have to PAY!

 

Because this is about America.
And what political leaning most fits one's beliefs.

 

Did we not end up in a recession as a result of Reagan/volcker policy?
The intent today is to slow inflation without causing a recession.

The fed res has nothing at all to do with spending.
The fed gov't is required to pay back the SS money it borrowed. It's responsible to pay back all debt.

Maybe the gov't should look at shoring up SS. It seems there's some that want to avoid doing so. And in fact, wants to eliminate it.

 

So it;s not fair to address your inane left leaning comments?

 

NO. It's not even remotely related to the topic.
Go start another thread about your silly marxist BS that no one but nutters talk about.

 

I also respect Judaism. I find it more authentic than Christianity.

“Israel” abuses Judaism just as ISIS abuses Islam.

 

Oh, you're right about some schemers -- especially in the Republican Party -- wanting to 'privatize' Social Security, or just get rid of it altogether. Former Republican 'rising-star' Rick Santorum destroyed his promising political career by attacking EARNED Social Security benefits, and today Republican White House-contender, Chris Christie, has essentially done the same thing! Good riddance! Politicians who want to play games to reduce or steal EARNED benefits altogether need to be gotten rid of, forthwith!

And you're also right, Dairy, about the Fed wishing that it could provide a "soft landing" for the economy with these inadequate, anemic rate increases... but it simply has done far too little to accomplish anything really beneficial in removing the 'bloat' in the economy. And the longer it takes, the worse the overall situation becomes. Inflation is still rampant in many areas -- rent, house prices, taxes levied by state and local governments, utilities, medical services, prescription medicine (except for insulin), dentistry, automobiles, hardware, many grocery prices (except eggs), etc., etc.

Meanwhile, wages are increasing among more sectors in the economy, especially among labor union workers, and government workers (of course)... and that certainly makes an inflationary situation even worse. And you can bet your last dime that nothing will happen to reign-in government spending now because we're now exactly one year away from the next election! I just don't see a 'happy ending' to this increasingly dangerous economic situation, do you? If so, share with us how you think we can possibly emerge from this mess in anything close to a 'good way'? Democrats still seem to be as happy as children who've been given platters full of cookies... are they living in 'fairyland'? We'll probably know by about the end of Q1, 2024.

 

I think you might be wrong on the inflation fight. It is coming down and quite a bit.


https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/

And so far, recession seems to not be a big concern. This inflation only started after the world opened up after nearly 2 yrs of a shutdown due to covid.
According to chart above, we are now below most of 2021.

Wages at some point were going to go up. They've been pretty stagnant for a couple of decades.
People were not filling jobs that were open. There were worker shortages across the board. The only way to fill them is wage increases.

It's a bit early, but I do see an end to this economic down turn, without a recession. I was certain 2 yrs ago we'd not get out of it without a recession. But jobs and growth has remained strong. Recession's usually shed jobs. The economy has not shed jobs.

 

Your quite-correct observation about 'worker shortages' across the board reminded me immediately of what my German friends have told me it's like over there. In the case of both countries, and others in Europe at least, people didn't go back to work after the pandemic because the government was paying them NOT to work, and actually paying them quite a lot... to do NOTHING. In Germany, there's a 'guaranteed income' program that has become very, very popular (Surprise!), and that's on top of giving away money for rent, for food, etc. It's a real 'parasites' paradise' in Germany right now, but it's doubtful that this big welfare 'reverie' can go on like that for much longer at all.... And, remember, Germany has the best economy of that whole bunch in Europe (frightening! )

Still, you're right in saying that people are going back to work over here, but they're doing so slowly. And, yes, they're doing so because they still have an amount of that "pudge" the Federal Government gave them in various ways, and in a number of welfare and 'subsidy' programs, it still does!

But, ooh, now everything I mentioned before costs more (whether the almighty Fed chooses to include those segments in its inflation calculations, or not). And, yes, inflation has abated slightly, yes, but all those high prices with few exceptions have remained high -- or are still getting measurably higher.

For the moment, without doubt, it looks like the idiots in Congress are going to "do" another 'continuing resolution', and kick the budget 'can' down the road until the end of December. You don't have to be a 'Nostradamus' to be able to divine that, but what concerns me is what things may look like about the end of March of next year. I've got my doubts that anybody's going to be singing, "Happy Days Are Here Again" on April Fool's Day next year....

 

Not sure, 2 years after the last covid stimulant package that people still have any of that money left.
Prices really had no choice to rise after the world was allowed travel again.
Supply was in deep short supply, while demand was going to be there. Likely from those stimulus packages.
You are correct, that was likely a big reason for the slow return of workers to the work force.

The inflation was world wide, so it wasn't really do to any fed res policies. 0% interest rates did keep the economy(s) out of recession, a good think IMO.
And I think they've done a decent job of slowing growth without choking it off and sending us into another down turn.

It would be a good success to lower inflation without having gone into a recession.

 

I marked MAGA because I understand how hybridized capitalism works, and so does Trump.
We are living in a period of government distorted markets and the inefficiencies created by it. Today's economic numbers are pretty much a cherry picked mirage, and our birth rate ins in the toilet.
Lastly, a majority of working Americans who don't own homes are going to take a beating for a good ten years.
BUT there is hope for those people: Trump for four, and another Republican for eight!

 

I disagree on trump knowing about how capitalism works. He understands, from his past businesses, how to manipulate numbers to make his businesses look better than they really are and that's his brand of capitalism. He knows how to break contracts and not pay his bills.
Someone so dishonest all their life, IMO, does not make a good leader nor a good person to understand how capitalism works.

Many of the economic numbers have been calculated the same way for decades.

What does the birth rate have to do with gov't?

What inefficiencies are there in the markets?

 

This is a good place to start:
https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/economics/economic-forecasting/

 

I know about leading and lagging indicators. They can be accurate guides, not 100%, to future movements.

What was I to gain from your link? I am not clear.

 

Only 32 votes but that is probably good enough to show the leaning of this forum.
About 70% are Right or Right leaning.
30% Left or left leaning.

That's a substantial difference.

 

34 votes out of what is usually 70-100 posters.
Not a bad turn out.
And dropped to 65% RW and 35% LW related.