White House lies about the budget

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  1. DBM aka FDS

    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    I did it... Here you go... Now if you have a resource that can FILL in the monies then we can talk about how I have more authority over the subject of budget than you...

    How about that?

    I had it all there... edited, and just chickened out... sorry... I don't want any trouble for posting anything that might get me into trouble...

    So... being the intelligent person that I am, I looked at the bottom of the email and THERE IT WAS!!! Who put that out to the whole Dept of Interior!! Name of publisher, company, rank, serial number - the whole nine...

    Did some research - and here you go - of course you can't get in because you... well, you can't... you're a civilian... Well... dang it... I don't think I should give that to you either...

    Kinda pinned up against the wall here... I know people I work with that post on this site and they can put the face to the avatar...

    Sorry... I can't...
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't have to fill in any monies, it has nothing to do with the issue here.
     
  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know what makes up the budget, the issue here is the Congressional process. The Democrats have NOT followed the law and submitted a budget resolution into conference with the House for over 3 years. It does NOT take a supermajority to pass it regardless of the lies the WH is spouting.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    And according to DBM aka FDS is just because they can't get the "wording" right! ROFL!
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    That is a crock...

    Let me tell you how it goes - first bills get passed - http://thomas.loc.gov/home/LegislativeData.php?&n=BillText

    Then after that they need to define how those bills being pass work into the budget since things have changed. (here is ours - http://appropriations.house.gov/UploadedFiles/HR2584_Bill_2012.pdf )

    (this has a lot of the infor that was in my email, but the email includes other departments that we work with)

    Since these bills have already been passed, it's set in stone on who - what - how much and so forth. Now... We need to set it into paper...

    Do you understand?
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Yes, because we (the Departments of the Federal Gov't) already know what we are getting for the next year...

    So, I read your post and I am laughing my f'ing behind off... is that LMFBO? I don't know... But, I'll start a new one if there isn't...

    So, question, if all the people within the Gov't know what they are getting each year and we already know where it's coming from - what is left to be discussed? All of this PROPAGANDA that you are arguing about has already been taken care of... It's right there..

    Read it...
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    I know how it goes, each branch of the Congress passes their budget resolution and then it goes into conference for reconciliation. The Senate has not passed a budget resolution for over three years. It is not because it requires a supermajority as they are trying to lie about.

    FACT CHECK: Jack Lew's Sunday Show Tour of Dodge & Deception

    February 12, 2012

    In advance of the release of the President’s FY2013 budget request, White House Chief of Staff Jack Lew revealed a stunning deception with respect to the budget process. When asked why the Democrat-controlled Senate has failed to pass a budget for over 1,000 days, Lew – the President’s former budget director – falsely claimed on both CNN and Meet the Press that a supermajority is needed to pass a budget resolution in the U.S. Senate, and that a ‘filibuster’ is what stands in the way of Senator Reid’s inability to pass a budget.

    FACT CHECK: This morning, when pressed further on this question, Lew revealed a stunning deception with respect to the budget process. Lew claimed on both CNN and Meet the Press that a supermajority is needed to pass a budget resolution in the U.S. Senate, and that a ‘filibuster’ is what stands in the way of Senator Reid’s inability to pass a budget.

    - Jack Lew on MTP: “Well, one of the things about the United States Senate that I don’t think the American people realize is that it takes 60 not 50 votes to pass something.”

    - Jack Lew on CNN: “We also need to be honest. You can't pass a budget in the Senate of the United States without 60 votes.”

    That is simply false: “The budget resolution…requires only a majority vote to pass, and its consideration is one of the few actions that cannot be filibustered in the Senate.”
    http://budget.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=280020
     
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    Id like to think they lied, but am afraid they just dont have a clue.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    We already know this, we are talking about why it isn't getting passed... What's holding it up...

    I told you - and provided links...
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    I told you, Reid won't let them out of committee. It is not the lie the WH is telling. They wanted to pull a canard on you and apparently you have fallen for it.
     
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    There's no filibuster rule in the House.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Nope... That is incorrect... What is your Gov't clearance... Let's just start there...

    Or do you even have one?
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    Who said there was?
     
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    I told you that is correct. Government clearences have nothing to do with it just a canard on your part.

    Reid: No, I don’t plan to bring a budget to the floor this year
    posted at 3:40 pm on February 3, 2012 by Tina Korbe

    It’s been more than 1,000 days since the Senate has passed a budget, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is unconcerned. In fact, he says he has no plans to bring a budget to the floor in 2012, either. He argues the 2012 budget is already done because last summer’s debt-ceiling deal included a few spending caps. Essentially, Reid wonders: Why do we need a long-term spending plan when we can stumble into some spending caps here and there?
    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/03/reid-no-i-dont-plan-to-bring-a-budget-to-the-floor-this-year/
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    PLEASE STOP AND READ!!!

    I am not going to debate you on the propaganda you keep submitting! I have given you everything you need. Why do we need a budget? It’s already done! Each department has their budget and that is how we are getting paid… It’s done. I have GIVEN YOU LINKS!!!

    READ THEM!!! Everyone's budget is done until 2013... DONE!!! Read the flippin links - sheesh!!!
     
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    Oh it gets worse than this. If the Democrats put forth a decent budget, the Republicans in the Senate would help them pass it. They cannot force Dingy Harry to do anything. He is the majority and if he doesn't allow it to be brought up, it goes nowhere.
     
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    There is no budget resolution from the Senate, there will not be one this year as Reid has already stated, there hasn't been one for three years.

    Sorry you are so clueless as to how the budget process in Congress works.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    You must have missed this. I posted this in the previous page...

     
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    Nope you got it wrong then. There is no budget resolution nor reconciliation, you do know what that is?, this year as the last three years because the Senate Democrats refuse to even bring theirs out of committee. There will be no vote on a new budget, the will just let the existing spending limits stay in effect while they continue to raise spending beyond them.
     
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    But not passed by the Senate and submitted to conference as required by law.
     

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