White House says Trump expected to pull US from Paris deal

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    ia solyndra your only example, try reading what science says

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-do-green-projects-create-jobs/
     
  2. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    Again, if you don't think that there will be an economic retaliation from leaving an agreement that we helped lead, LOL.
     
  3. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    I'm confused how you think that reducing carbon emissions somehow doesn't help our oceans, ground water, streams, air, and soil.
     
  4. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Imagine if the Wright brothers had your attitude. 'Well Wilbur, it failed to fly again. Let's give up'.
     
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  5. Sage3030

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    We don't have the record from 10,000 years ago. Why not 2 million years ago when the early hominids are around? We have some species alive today that were around before that 10000 year mark. Before my 2 million year mark as well. One that was around 150 million years before T-Rex came about.

    https://www.nwf.org/News-and-Magazi...chives/2010/Worlds-oldest-animal-species.aspx

    One that has been around even longer than that, the sea sponge, clocking in at around 640 million years!

    http://thechive.com/2014/09/25/oldest-animal-species-still-living-on-earth-today-12-photos/

    To take a line from a silly movie, would that it were so simple.

    Edit: one more, this time a mammal:

    http://www.windstar.org/animals/opossums-are-oldest-surviving-mammal/

    75 million years!
     
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    I can just see Trump this afternoon:

    After the Apprentice-style, attention-whoring, "I am making my decision " BS--

    --Trump decides to STAY IN the agreement.

    The he will try to act magnanimous about it (like he was giving the prisoners beer in The Shawshank Redemption).
     
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    It's settled then. Trump will pull us out of the agreement.
     
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    then people should be jumping on this market like hot cakes.
    No need for government
     
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    It isn't. Its clear you didn't read carefully. What I said:

    Tell that to Solyndra and the multiple other companies that failed after getting billions from the government.

    How did you miss that? It was in the same sentence.

    That's a theory. Come back to reality.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/27/obama-backed-green-energy-failures-leave-taxpayers/

    Get that? 2.2 Billion with a B. Lost. So once again I ask you, why should we repeat that failure?
     
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    Wilbur wasn't government funded. Neither was Bell, Tesla or Edison. Thanks for making my point.

    LOL Talk about walking right into the fan blades.
     
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    Like the Wright brothers! :roflol:
     
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    So what? Innovation costs money, irrespective of the source. How much government (your taxes), money went into the Moon landings? How have you personally benefited from them?
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    No. And where is space flight now? In the private sector!

    We tried your failed experiment. We lost 2.2 billion dollars. That's why you don't bring in the government.
     
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    You already did. We gave you your first jet engine to copy, the railway, the automobile, television...!
    Lucky you, eh? Enjoy your filthy, polluted country-because that's what Trump is generously gifting you.
     
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    reality is the DoD is heavily invested in green technology
     
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    AJ made a prediction. When he predicts something, the safe bet is the opposite of what he predicted.
     
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    Or, or, it could start another direction given the magnitude our economy affects the rest of the world. Perhaps, even more people will realize what a ridiculous concept this whole Paris accord was.
     
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    fyi, at&t received a lot of tax payer money, as did every energy company in the early onset to set up the infrastructure.

    the notion they didnt get financial help is completely false
     
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    how come no rwer complains about the DoD spending on green technology
     
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    There was a mad scramble for the subsidies, but the alternate energy market has drastically cooled.
     
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    You are first required to prove that carbon emissions somehow hurts our oceans, ground water, streams, air and soil. 1. How does CO2 hurt any of these things? 2. How does the micro amount of change associated with humans affect anything? Key word is how, I don't want the regurgitated correlation nonsense debunked stats.
     
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    I'm not a right winger, but I complain about almost all government spending.
     
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    It doesn't change the reality those investments are not profitable. Face the reality.
     
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    And AT&T has some of the worst customer service out there. You aren't helping your case.

    I named specific men not companies. Try being honest about that. And if you are going to continue this then name the government money Bell Wright Edison and Tesla used for their breakout inventions.

    I'll wait.
     

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