White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

Always, Trump wants it both ways, meaning he has no core beliefs. He believes whatever is politically expedient at the time. On national television, in front of students from Parkland, Fla., Trump told them and the nation he wanted background checks. That was a year and a half ago. Nothing was done.

On Monday, Trump tweeted that he wanted background checks. A couple hours later, he spoke to the nation and said absolutely nothing about background checks.

Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.

Following the slaughter of innocent civilians, two mass murders committed by white supremacists influenced by the President's hate-filled rhetoric, Trump let it be known that he has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of the mass shootings. In a way his ham-handed approach is almost comical. He lacks both imagination and discreetness.

Trump's comments prompted a warning from the National Rifle Association, and there were concerns among White House aides. They need not worry. Trump cannot be trusted. He will say whatever is politically advantageous at the moment, and he should never be taken seriously.

The NRA opposes the legislation sponsored by Sens. Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.) and Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.). NRA chief executive Wayne LaPierre spoke with Trump on Tuesday after Trump expressed support for a background check bill and told him it would not be popular among Trump’s supporters.

Trump's sycophant in the Senate, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), said he would not bring any gun-control legislation to the floor without widespread Republican support.

Trump knows that will not happen. So, all his talk and tweets about background checks is no more than phony rhetoric designed to win votes and counter his inflammatory statements that encouraged the mass murders in the first place.

Barring another mass shooting, which is entirely possible because Trump defends his rhetoric, this time next week there will be no further talks about background checks. That is what happened after Columbine, Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Parkland, and Las Vegas, and that is what will happen now.

This source helped with this post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f82060-b92d-11e9-a091-6a96e67d9cce_story.html

 

Oh, the whiteness factor, like its some kind of great heroic feat to be white. Let's see. What do you need to be white. Fck. The same thing you need to do to be black, yellow, red, beige, pink, and brown, be born human. Damn. The Worship of the Non-Achievement. Easy to have pride when you don't need to earn it.

 

For a Trump supporter you have a very curious trait. You never mention what Trump has said or done. You always talk about other people, normally Democrats, never Trump.

Or you talk about political ideologies and vague characterizations, never Trump.

As one of Trump's fans, why do you avoid talking about Trump?

 

I don't know about "the privilege", having had to earn everything I have, but if a 13-year-old did shoot up 3 or 4 white people, what difference does the skin color make? Didn't he just murder 3 or 4 human beings? Justice requires his arrest, trial, and if found guilty, the appropriate punishment, even if the world is corrupt and depraved. Would you want it any other way?

 

The White Maniacs Manifestos: Genocide to save the White Race.

The very fact that these madmen are worried about their race instead of creating their own achievements by their own efforts is a really big fckn red flag.

Even if it's true, why the hell would any rational being care? Man is not a skin color, he's a being of reason. Obviously, no rational being would care, therefore the title I've given this post. The White Maniacs Manifestos: Genocide to save the White Race. Damn, that sounds so familiar, Heil, anyone?

Does anyone really believe the White Race is dying out? And if so, why would anyone alive at this moment care? Your identity is your skin color? Your value as a human being is determined by your skin color? Your character, your morality, your philosophy, your achievements, your knowledge, your pride, your self-esteem, everything you are and ever will be is determined by your skin color, and not your ability to think, to create, to learn, to sing, to write, to plan, to draw, to build...to live life as a rational being with all the glory, and wonder, and romance, and adventure that a rational life can bring to a human soul? Skin color?

I hope it is obvious to all how depraved and corrupt that is. Skin color over reason. Sick. Sick. Sick.

Ayn Rand: "Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.

Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men.

Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination.

A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race—and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin."--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html

Many ask as to why I quote Ayn Rand? Because she's brilliantly right and deserves admiration and respect, not to mention to give credit to where credit is due.

 

I take your, somewhat laconic, point but that's still not really evidence, it's merely suggestion.

My personal opinion is that anybody that wants to commit mass murder in a shopping mall is "mentally ill". Heck, even wanting to own a quasi-war weapon is a qualifier in my estimation but I'm not a mental health professional.

It seems the shooter had a clear intent, a clear target and a clear method to achieve his aim.

I think a mental illness defense would be a pretty tough one to ride out in front of a jury. He was rational to the point of his own sensibilities. Hate is not a mental illness (well colloquially I think it is) as defined by any recognized medical or social-science based institution.

 

It shouldn't but it would, that was my point. why do you think so many black mothers have to make the "police" speech to their children?

I'd like it to be the same for everybody but, demonstrably it's not.

 

Wow...so if a group was wearing white hoods, I am sure you would say they just like white headdress! And that really scared me about your ex-wife beating me around the head. No wonder she’s your former wife she probably beat you around the head and for good reason! Was she carrying torches and chanting, “Jews will not replace us?” I scorn FDR also. He did not allow Jews to get asylum the same way you don’t want Latinos to get asylum. I’m sure you can identify with him

 

Who does t earn it?Sounds like you’re implying that “certain groups” don’t earn things,There is nothing heroic about being white, but having enjoyed white male privileges for centuries gives one an advantage

 

Seriously? Again? How can you be so misinformed?

 

So does being able to think for one’s self.

 

So you say, reasonable minds disagree..

 

Think

 

Data doesn't back you up. Nor does personable experience. My brother and cousins were both beat up my cops. I was body searched for having a bad muffler. All of us were white and hassled by white cops. Go figure.

But truly, if you are really seek a just and honorable society, where one is judge by their character and actions, and not their skin color, you fight for individual rights, capitalism, and reason, not “me too” tribalism.

As an aside, in my neck of the woods, some Polish women advertise their house cleaning skills proudly. How? They place ad advertising Polish Maids, and no one takes it as an insult; for them it’s a badge of honor. This is because Polish cleaning ladies have a reputation for being exemplary hard workers and thorough cleaners. And they are right. Same with those that advertise “Asian tutor”.

Says something, doesn’t it.

 

Then demonstrate it.

 

In America being white had its benefits and being Black had its draw backs, but repeating past errors of racial favors isn’s going to improve anyone’s lot in life.

And observe how in other nations the locals always have an advantage:

In China, so does being Asian. In India, so does being Indian. In Mexico, so does being Mexican. In Zimbabwe, so does being African. Probably true in every nation, on every continent.

So, let’s fight for liberty, Individual Rights, and Capitalism, and not keep repeating the same collectivist sins, in any form, racial or otherwise. And not worry what the locals think.

 

The Post reports, "None of the eight victims of the El Paso mass shooting still being treated at University Medical Center agreed to meet with President Trump when he visited on Wednesday, the hospital’s spokesman said.

"Two victims who had been discharged from UMC and their families returned to the hospital to meet with Trump, Mielke said."

A girl who was shot in the leg and released from the hospital said her dad remains in critical condition and said her family refused to speak with Trump.

“The whole family said if he wants to go into the room, no. We don’t want him in the patient’s room. And we respect all of our family's opinion,” said Leticia Mariscal.

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While visiting a hospital in El Paso, Texas on Wednesday after a mass shooting that left 22 people dead, Trump found time to boast about the crowd size at a campaign rally he held in the city several months ago.

A video shows him saying, “I was here three months ago and we made a speech.”

“That was some crowd,” Trump bragged. “And we had twice the number outside.”

“And then you had this crazy Beto,” he continued. “Beto had like 400 people in the parking lot. They said his crowd was wonderful. But we had some—”

Trump then interrupted himself to admire a hospital worker’s Trump-themed socks.

“Oh wow! Look at that,” he exclaimed. “Don’t tell it to the press because they won’t even believe it.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-brag-rally-crowd-size-el-paso-hospital-visit

The man is a disgrace, but his fans love him. Perhaps, it is kinship. Trump is one their own kind.

 

I don't think that the term "mentally ill" is the proper one to use definitively here. I don't think these people are crazy, I think they are mentally disturbed, believe a number of things which are not true and have a belief that they have been somehow victimized by the world or some group and need to punish others to express that. This is like bad programming in a computer in some ways, use of interpretations of reality which produce very bad results. The device may not be bad (as in defective brain or mentally ill) but the thinking is and value system if any behind it is grossly distorted, abnormal and seriously unhealthy to the point of being highly dangerous.

 

Are you claiming that Trump, after two days of 24/7 network coverage, thought Charlottesville where Heather Heyer was murdered by a white supremacist thought this was about a statue?

What are you really saying? Two days after the clash, Trump was sadly misinformed? The rest of the nation knew what happened, but not our President.

Or, are you saying he was lying? Was he talking to his base, the only ones who would believe that screwy tale?

Or, are you saying Trump is just an idiot?

Which is it?

 

I'm saying that the actual transcripts of the press conference directly contradicts the "fine people" BS you and many others have been spouting for years. With you guys, it's just one long disinformation campaign.

 

I agree completely.

 

I don't want to get down in the weeds on this because it would go off topic but just look at the massive disparity in incarceration rates and also sentencing lengths for like for like crime.

I actually agree that justice should be blind and maybe the situation will improve but for now the disparities are hard to ignore.

 

Are you claiming that Trump, after two days of 24/7 network coverage, thought Charlottesville where Heather Heyer was murdered by a white supremacist thought this was about a statue?

What are you really saying? Two days after the clash, Trump was sadly misinformed? The rest of the nation knew what happened, but not our President.

Or, are you saying he was lying? Was he talking to his base, the only ones who would believe that screwy tale?

Or, are you saying Trump is just an idiot?

Which is it?

Can't answer? Well, that tells all of us something, too.