Who do you consider white? Is white a valid race?

Irrelevant? I have posted dozens of genetic studies along with genealogies. This thread is about who is white, and it has been proven that religious denominations to not determine color or 'race'.

 

Genealogies which I have posted are evidence enough, in addition, last names are very significant, and the three main diaspora groups have been genetically tested and cluster closest middle eastern, specifically jewish, than with any other group.

As to your claim that anyone on earth can claim israelite descent, that is absurd. How many scots know hebrew and aramaic? All the Jews are liars? lmao we all forged the genealogies and the exilarch is completely fabricated...

 

you falsely claimed that there are lots of Jews who can trace their ancestors all the way back, directly, to the ancient Israelites. This is 100% false. Maybe.,....just maybe the folks on the Tunisian island can, but you still haven't provided evidence for this.

do you know what a strawman argument is? well, you just made one. Plus you misrepresented by comment.

 

You dont understand because you are not reading. PEOPLE'S NAMES ARE CHANGED BY THEMSELVES OR OTHERS . see, its simple. Many gentiles from europe changed their name to hebrew names when they converted. thats how europeans came to have hebrew names.

What happened is this: Gentiles enslaved Israel, changed Israels name [again?] then the gentiles gave themselves hebrew sounding names, like goldstein, silverstein. Names that assume that they were purveyors and masters of precious gems and minerals when in actual fact the only minerals they mastered was cement rocks from the caucaus mountains.

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whatever.

 

there are no genetic studies that can prove Israelite ancestry, as we don't have a sample of Israelite genes to compare to those of modern people.

we do however have evidence of Middle Eastern descent, for Ashkenazim and Sephardim.

does this mean Israelite ancestry? maybe.

however, to date there is no one person on Earth who can trace their ancestors all the way back to ancient Israel.

not one.

you got one? name him and give us his ancestry.

 

Nobody has been genetically tested. ITS ALL A BIG HOAX. There is NO DATA FOR US TO REVIEW> its all fabricated, that IS REAL

 

Goldstein and Silverstein are not hebrew sounding names, they are germanic names lol

Hebrew and Aramaic:

Try Nissim, Eskenazi (variant of Ashkenazi), Hazan, Dahan, Hasdai, Azran, Elazar, Sasson, Yitzhak, Baruch, Cohen, Levi, Gabbai Eliyahu, Israel, Tzedeka, Azaria, Ovadia, Dayan, Shofet, Hayyim, Amnon, Maimon, Malka, Perez, Nahman, Mizrahi, Sarfati etc.

 

lol!!!!!!! thousands of people have been tested.

all over the world.

 

Oh right, just copy my argument why dont you without giving credit. Thats deceitful.

 

report me.

 

lol, why does everybody think goldstein and silverstein are hebrews then???????????

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ITS A HOAX

WAKE UP!!!!!!!

 

because many Ashkenazi Jews have such names.

 

Nah, just nice to separate the deceivers and decipherers.

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When did germans ever master Gold and Silver?

 

anyway, there is no 100% proof that someone is a descendant of the Israelites.

unless they can name every ancestor going all the way back.

 

I can't believe you thought german names sound hebrew. And you claim to be descended from hebrews? lol

Hebrews that settled in Ashkenaz (germany) were usually assigned germanic names by the local officials.

Again, try Nissim, Eskenazi (variant of Ashkenazi), Hazan, Dahan, Hasdai, Azran, Elazar, Sasson, Yitzhak, Ya'aqubi Baruch, Cohen, Levi, Gabbai Eliyahu, Israel, Tzedeka, Azaria, Ovadia, Dayan, Shofet, Hayyim, Yosef, Amnon, Maimon, Malka, Perez, Nahman, Mizrahi, Sarfati, Uziel, Yishai, Yerushalmi, BenEzra, Shaltiel, Shemtov, Sofer BenDavid, Moshe etc.

These are all hebraic/aramaic names from the diaspora.

 

lol!!!!! you don't even know why many Jews have German names.

here's a hint: we didn't get them until the 18th century.

 

Im celtic.

Gold stone and silver stone are german? Gold mining in germany was a big enterprise back when?

 

in another thread you said you are not white.

 

Celts arent so-called white.

 

sure they are.

Irish, Ulster-Scots, Welsh, Scots, are as white as they come.

 

You are celtic, but insist only black people are descended from the israelites. Thats an odd claim to make.

Example of german names: Rosenberg means rose of the mountain. Many jews were assigned german names, others were given a choice.

I still can't believe you thought silverstein and goldstein were hebrew names lol

 

Katz can be either germanic or hebraic. When its the hebraic form its derived from Cohen. Shapiro is also derived from hebrew.

Many Jews from North Africa have french surnames and speak french, not arabic. Some speak moroccan judeo arabic which is comparable to yiddish in that it is a hybrid language. Others speak Haketiya (western ladino spoken in morocco). And many know hebrew in addition to these local languages. Most north african jews (excluding some libyan jews who may possibly descend from berber locals) cluster with many ashkenazi jews according to genetic studies, science. Both north african jews and some ashkenazi jews have some babylonian jewish ancestry according to genealogies and history. The Jews in the babylonian captivity were hebrews. This is never disputed in academia or in sefaradi jewish circles and is common knowledge. Iraqi jews descend directly from babylonian jews and we are even called BAVLIM. We are hebrews. Our oral traditions and written genealogies along with written jewish history, in the form of commentaries, proves this. We do not descend from 'arab converts to the religion of judaism'. Thankfully we also have genetic studies to back this common sense up. We cluster closest with the jews of caucasian countries, persia, and central asia. The Jews of Iran, our genetic brothers who are virtually identical, do not descend from any mythological arab tribes either. Arabs in Iraq and North Africa have no knowledge of hebrew or aramaic.

The only 'arab jews' were arabs that converted to judaism in the arabian peninsula in antiquity. They came from arab tribes. This is well documented. I have to repeat this time and time again. They are arabians of the jewish faith. Some of these intermarried with hebrews living in yemen, forming the yemenite jewish community. This aligns itself with genetic studies as well, as yemenite jews tend to cluster on average with local arabs and bedouin arabs.

 

bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

i never said any such thing.

 

we are not white, you may be, thats your choice. We are celts and we believe white as a race is a defunct concept so we reject it. there may be some fake celts out there, particularly in the states who call themselves white.

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Odd, particularly since inever made such a claim.

 

thats all pretty speculative considering its just as likely they converted to a religion called judaism in order to claim Israelite descent, it goes on today all the time and likely happened in the past, isee no reason to suggest otherwise just look at Khazaria.