WHO warns HIV 'exploding' among gay men.>>MOD WARNING<<

I am sure that is the hope of all of those who oppose gay marriage.

 

The law. Penetration of the vagina by the husband is required.

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I think its a travesty that people desire not to offend the gays is leading to the un necessary sickness and death of 1000s of gays.

 

Not anymore, obviously.

So favoring same-sex marriage is tantamount to "leading to unnecessary sickness and death 1000s of gays." And how is prohibiting them from marrying PREVENTING these deaths?

Of course, you've been asked this a hundred times and run away every time. Your act is getting old.

 

Im the one arguing consummation is only required in three states. Progressive is the one arguing it is always required. Obviously.

 

????? This thread is about HIV, not marriage. And its the denial of the increased risk and the demonizing of anyone who dares point out that risk that leads to more deaths from HIV among gays.

 

HIV is now classified as a chronic condition, not a fatal condition. HIV no longer inevitably leads to AIDS. Furthermore, HIV is no longer a gay-only medical problem in the US (it has never been a gay-only issue in Africa, where it came from and where it is far and away more common than in the US). Increasingly, HIV is invading the heterosexual community. Which doesn't make it any less serious, it only means your bigotry is becoming increasingly decoupled from reality.

Nonetheless, you are correct that HIV is more common, and more easily transmitted, among gays. Personally, I don't think that same-sex marriage is going to influence this, because those who wish to marry are ALREADY not part of the high risk subpopulation. So how would YOU reduce the risk, among those whose actions increase the risk (in BOTH homo and hetero communities)? Do you think ignoring the heterosexual risks makes them go away? If it makes you more comfortable, just ignore the gay community for now and focus on the heterosexual spread of HIV. How can it be reduced?

 

Too bad they didnt get word to the 1.5 million that died in the last year.

 

Ah, another example of "dixon honesty". In fact, in 2012 about 1.6 million people worldwide died of AIDS-related problems. NOT HIV, we should note. Today, as I said, HIV is quite controllable and people are living for decades without developing AIDS.

And dixon strangely fails to point out that the overwhelmning majority of those who died of AIDS were heterosexuals who contracted the disease through heterosexual contact. And the overwhelming majority of them lived in sub-Saharan Africa. American deaths from AIDS amounted to approximately 1% of the global total.

 

Soooooo full of it. YOU are the one who claimed "HIV is now classified as a chronic condition, not a fatal condition" and now you want to argue it was never fatal. You are the only dishonest one.

 

Excellent work!!

 

Yet MORE "dixon honesty". Aren't we lucky?

HIV is not AIDS. Maybe to avoid further dishonesty, this should be emphasized. HIV is not AIDS. I said that in the US, HIV is regarded as chronic. YOU responded by pointing out that heterosexuals are dying of AIDS (not HIV) in vast numbers IN AFRICA. Your deliberate misdirection and dishonest implication was caught immediately. Care to try telling the truth for a change? Who knows, maybe it won't kill you.

 

It is a chronic condition DIXON .What is your point? What is the point of any of this? I noticed that you continue to run away from my questions about what you would suggest we do as a country to stem the spread of HIV. I'm looking for a policy statement. Otherwise this is all just horse(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

No you didn't, YOU SAID "HIV is now classified as a chronic condition, not a fatal condition". Your bucket of (*)(*)(*)(*) runneth over.

 

Sure I have. A second time just for you

 

No! You have not! All you offered was to say that we should not deny that there in an HIV problem among gays and that we should not malign those who talk about it openly. Few if any want to deny or hide that fact the gay community is disproportionally effected by HIV. infections. We are looking for solutions. If you're saying that what you said is solution, you're either knowingly lying, delusional or you are not able to understand what public policy is. You are not interested in answers, learning anything, or helping anyone. The only reason why you want to talk about HIV or AIDS is because it is thought of as a gay disease and you want to use it to disparage gays.

ATTENTION: DOES ANYONE HERE THINK THAT I'M WRONG ON THIS OR THAT DIXON ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THE VICTIMS OF HIV OR AIDS?

 

Whenever some one points it out on this forum, they are attacked for doing so. Ive provided CDC statistics on the rate of infection for men who have sex with men in the US and they are disputed as inaccurate.

 

Dixon, I for one never disputed the CDC statistics and I don&#8217;t know who did. I never said that the gay community was not disproportionally effected by HIV. The only question that I raised is why and what do we do about it. And, that is a question that you continue to avoid providing an answer to. This latest post is just another dodge. I remain convinced that you don&#8217;t care about solutions and in fact revel in the gay communities struggle with the disease.
If you want to talk about what the CDC has to say, have a look at this

Does that give you some clue as to how we can more effectively address the issue? THINK real hard and see what you come up with.


Here is more along those same lines

Do you support these types of approaches? Unless you can say yes or come up with some ideas of your own, you will just be confirming everything that I said&#8230;&#8230;.you don&#8217;t give a crap.

 

Here is more for you to consider:

Do you support government funding for research and prevention?

 

???What I wrote is right there for all to see. And what I wrote is also true - that HIV is now regarded as chronic and not fatal. YOU responded with statistics about AIDS (not HIV) deaths worldwide, but mostly among heterosexuals in Africa. Except of course you carefully neglected to mention that your statistics were (1) global; (2) for a different condition; and (3) applied mostly to heterosexuals.

What I don't understand is, I wrote that HIV is regarded as chronic, and you "corrected" me by pointing out that I wrote that HIV is regarded as chronic.

Do you EVER tell the truth?

 

It's Dixon's bucket of excrement that runneth over. I can't wait to see how he handles my last post. He'll do or say anything to avoid dealing with anything that actually matters.

 

What? There's no at-home HIV test? They have home drug tests and home paternity tests at Walgreens. I never thought to look for an HIV test there, but it sure is weird that they wouldn't have one. That's just stupid and irresponsible for the state to disallow them, if true.

 

Actually I don't know. This information is from a few years ago. I posted that just as an example of something can be done. An idea since certain people are unable to understand how to deal with this subject in a constructive way, rather than just portraying gays as dangerous carriers of disease.

 

I dont know, lets see what you edited out with ".............".

Like I said, Its the denial of the prevalence of the infection and the demonizing of anyone who points out the prevalence of the infection that could really help. And we can add they need to stop blaming the homophobia and stigma of homosexuality for the disease they got because they had unprotected sex with 37 different men over the course of a year.

 

No you said "HIV is now classified as a chronic condition, not a fatal condition".

Do you ever tell the truth?

 

Yes, that's what I wrote, as anyone can see. The classification has been changed because of the effectiveness of treatments that have been developed. And these treatments are important because they mean that HIV is increasingly disconnected from AIDS. Which in turn means that your response about AIDS deaths in Africa is even more dishonest. You do have a knack for lying. It comes to you so naturally you can't see it even when everyone points it out repeatedly.