Who were the 3 Wise Men of the Bible?

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  1. 4Horsemen

    4Horsemen Banned

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    So how do they control it today, genius?

    If you knew how to research you would understand and trace back the people of Islam started out in the land of Gygez worshipping Diana. how many times I gotta tell you that?!!!!

    Islam only appeared AFTER the ministry of Yeshua the Chirst. THAT should clue in you in. but I guess not.



    Be gone small minded one.
     
  2. Questerr

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    Do you have evidence that the Assyrians control anything today?

    As many times as it takes for you to provide evidence to back up your claim. Here's a clue: your say so (when you have a history of lying and making (*)(*)(*)(*) up) ain't evidence.

    No (*)(*)(*)(*). And Jesus only ministered after Siddharta Guatama became the Buddha, so clearly (going by your logic) Jesus must have been a Buddhist.
     
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    Your rebuttal is that all evidence of these things, ALL, has been hidden away by....?

    Never mind. I feel ridiculous even responding to this.
     
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    let's play connect the dots for you simple minded folks.

    Ancient Assyrians = Modern day Muslims got it?

    Everything I say I validate with a link or a scripture. so I guess you're claiming that the Bible is a lie?



    hahaha...crap knowledge. Buddah?...seriously?...hahaha
     
  5. Durandal

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    As well you should. 4Horsemen is either having everybody on or he's even loonier than Heretic. :D I think it's the former, personally.
     
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    The old saying goes, "when it gets too hot in the kitchen....."
     
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    Nope. Where is your proof to back up your claim?

    You have yet to validate your claim that Muslims are Babylonians.
     
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    If you saying the lack of historical evidence of an event is proof that it has been hidden away by historical marauders is what you consider a hot kitchen, I have to assume you eat alot of unthawed frozen dinners.
     
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    For you to truly understand that the Assyrians are the modern day Muslims, you have to chart the lineage of the people through geneology. Long story short, the lineage of Japheth(son of Noah), is where the Arab lineage began, skip down to the Assyrian capitivty of the Israelites, which led to the Babylonian captivity. See the map? notice Assyria and just below it Babylon?...yeah, 2 brutal captivities, Assyria 740B.C. and Babylon 599 BCE, launched upon my people which almost destroyed us. Both Islamic in nature. although Islam wasn't established until 600 years AFTER Christ walked the earth. go figure.

    WIK_Assyrian-deportation-of-Israelites.jpg
     
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    Allow me to heat them up for you then.
     
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    We're all waiting, because your arguments are ice cold.
     
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    Thank you for backing up my argument that neither controlled the area that Islam came from. Do you have any evidence that the people who live in those areas now are in any way related to the Assyrians or Babylonians in any way other than geographically?
     
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    I see You have trouble relating history. No worries, most people taught in the backwards Americanized school system are blind to facts and truth of history.

    I bet you think the name Mexican is a Nationality don't you? it's not.

    You have to trace Geneology not names to find out whose who in the world today, because all the people that lived way back then, still have descendants to this very day and THEY know who they are and where they came from. and thus the Muslim, knows all too well that they are descendants of the Assyrians and Babylonians.

    Too sad that you don't.
     
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    The Arabs are descended from Bedouins, not Babylonians or Assyrians. You still fail.

    BTW, are you seriously arguing that Mexican isn't a nationality?
     
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    Hmm.....
     
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    No, they were noblemen from the Far East.
     
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    yes. they had power of some kind. Definitely had loads of money. They certainly knew Jewish prophecy. and respected it. And they were versed in the knowledge of the stars, Astronomy. They probably came from Persia, today's Iraq. Obviously good men since they were told and they heeded a message from the angel to go out a different way and to avoid herod.
     
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    Right, and if they were Herod's men, why would they have brought gifts to baby Jesus, seeing as Herod later tried to have him killed - or if they were "scouts" like the OP's suggesting, why didn't they just have baby Jesus killed then and there? His theory makes no sense.
     
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    Easy enough for someone to really not understand if they don't take the time to read and understand the bible scripture.
     
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    Then you should easily be able to explain it and justify it with scriptural citations.

    Begin.
     
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    Arabs aka Muslims aka Assyrians aka Babylonians. they are all the same inhabitants from the days of old, just changed their ideologies over time.
     
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    I never said they were Herod's men. I said they were Arab Scouts, that Herod paid to go look for Yeshua and report back to him. The 3 Arabs set out to find him, and they did, and the worshipped him, and decided not to report back to Herod as being warned by GOD, and they went back to their country, most likely Saudi Arabia.

    Here are the facts...


    Matthew 2-12



    2 Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem, 2 saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.”

    3 When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. 4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born.

    5 So they said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it is written by the prophet:

    6 ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
    Are not the least among the rulers of Judah;
    For out of you shall come a Ruler
    Who will shepherd My people Israel.’”[a]

    7 Then Herod, when he had secretly called the wise men, determined from them what time the star appeared. 8 And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and search carefully for the young Child, and when you have found Him, bring back word to me, that I may come and worship Him also.”

    9 When they heard the king, they departed; and behold, the star which they had seen in the East went before them, till it came and stood over where the young Child was. 10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceedingly great joy. 11 And when they had come into the house, they saw the young Child with Mary His mother, and fell down and worshiped Him. And when they had opened their treasures, they presented gifts to Him: gold, frankincense, and myrrh.

    12 Then, being divinely warned in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed for their own country another way.
     
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    for reference.


    I think I was right on point with my OP.
     
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    provided above.
     
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    justify. JUSTIFY?? WHY must it be justified. The story is in the bible. WHat is there to be justifed?
     

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