Who would you vote for? (see OP first)

This is a hypothetical situation. Please do not bother with saying that it can't or won't happen. If you can't handle the question within the hypothetical, just move on.

The election is over. Somehow in a strange quirk of fate, all four candidates listed have ended up in a four way tie in both popular vote and EC votes. The only person in all the US who hasn't voted (assuming those eligible only) is you. Officials have tracked you down and now want your vote since it will decide the next POTUS. Who will you choose?

Keep in mind that now you don't have to vote a specifically for Republicans to ensure the Democrat doesn't win, or vice versa. If you have an actual preference beyond the two, you can now ensure they will get in. Again, this is a hypothetical, and is not worried about what you believe reality would be.

 

I would probably not vote. It doesn't matter anyway as the popular vote doesn't choose the POTUS.

 

Did you miss the part where it was both the popular vote AND the EC vote, thus making yours the deciding one? This is what I meant by it's a hypothetical, not reality, so answer within the hypothetical, not reality.

 

Hypothetically (and realistically), I would not cast a vote.

 

Actually no, I didn't. Yours run under a completely different premise. You are doing a straight poll. Mine is intended to look at who would consider voting third party if they felt that doing so could actually make a difference. Hence why the hypothetical was so important.

 

Howie baby, with a name like Howie how can you go wrong. We had a Barack, that didn't work out one bit, lets try a Howie.

 

There is a less than zero chance of a 3rd party candidate winning.

The only chance is for the Republican party to implode, which is entirely possible, and then have your guys win the scramble to replace them.

Just FYI, I'd like to see a multi-party system.

 

You were asked to answer within the bounds of the hypothetical, not look at reality. On the plus side, I'm glad you want more that two active parties in elected positions.

 

More delusion than hypothetical..

 

Not really. The intent is to see how many people would prefer to vote third party, even if they wouldn't under the current conditions.

 

Really, the deck is stacked.

 

HOw so? The hypothetical situation is that each individual can have exactly who they wish, out of who is running. If there are more, they are keeping an even lower profile than the Green and Libertarian candidates are claimed to be keeping.

 

Rules and laws.

 

Really? OK what rules and laws in my hypothetical stacked the deck?

 

Sorry, but this is one of those arcane bits that doesn't have anything to do with anything I am interested in.

But I did google it

https://people.howstuffworks.com/third-party-candidate.htm

 

Poor howie

 

Not sure what this fascination is with third parties....as if they are somehow better than the other two parties.

They aren't.

Republicans were a third party you know.

 

And at the time, many would have claimed them to be better than the Whigs that they replaced. In the end, though, better is a subjective term. Therefore your claim of third parties being not better than the current major parties is as much opinion as is ours that they are better.

 

What is different about a third party outside of some minor policy differences that makes them somehow different?

It's not the parties it's the system in which they operate and to operate in our system you need to do certain things and act certain ways. Any party in power will be subject to those same forces.

 

I get your parameters, but I have to point out that Dario Hunter actually is the Green Party candidate but excluded. Howie formally announce for the green party but now is the socialist USA candidate.

Don't know Howie well, but assuming some intellectual vigor, and a lack for moral turpitude, I would pick him. Its not about ideology or party. Its about people and bureaucratic management, political skills and decision-making aptitudes and character etc. I have concerns about my preferred democratic party nominee on those scores and you have not provided a VP. I am a Democrat.

What this means is that ideology and political party affiliation do not work as some wall or litmus test against getting my vote if you are the only person with the skill set.

 

Addendum. I was thinking about it. Hypothetically what if we had 4 candidates with the similar experience, and with fine skill sets and character each connected to the four parties so that ideology, views and the party were the only defining characteristics delineating the socialist from the republican from the libertarian to the democrat. I would actually pick the socialist or green party candidate even though I was a Democrat . The logic is that the country actually benefits from learning these unorthodox and outlier ideas he showcases, ( big fan of a broader spectrum of ideas) but there is virtually no threat that Congress will do anything but water them down no matter how good he is. He will be forced to compromise regardless.

 

That change either happened after I made the post and poll, or I somehow missed it in looking up Green party. I think at the time, Howie was the front runner for Green still.

 

Even though I don't care for him, and I do disagree with several of his policies -- and his personality -- still, I'd vote for Trump.

The alternative (Biden, of course) would be entirely too insane and suicidal for this country for us to even think about!

I was a Reagan Republican -- back when American really WAS great! Today, there's nobody on the entire political scene that fills me with optimism, although there may eventually be potential with Democrats Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard. But not (NOT) Joe Biden!

. I'd like to see this Democrat ticket in 2024, for comparison!

 

I'm reading a great book now by Steve Benen called The Impostors. It spells out how the Republican party no longer even pretend to govern. They offer no policy solutions and haven't in a long while. They are too focused on playing political games to seek solutions. I strongly recommend the book.

 

The so called popular vote wouldn't matter anyway because there was no national popular vote.