Why all discussions about Russian Future is wasting of time?

But you have not called Russia 'Mafia State', that's a big difference.

 

Ostap I admire your fing spontaneity. lol

And I second you.

But I can’t say that Russia is the “mafia state” at all. These ^ criminal bastrds are just a worst part of Russian ppl. And we must eradicate these social evils.

However we have lots of good and honest-minded ppl from all levels of the population, here. And they honestly and properly discharge their duties

 

IMHO , it is splitting hairs to argue whether Russia is controlled by a Mafia or by Organised Crime .
However , the much vaunted model of vertical power means that no big decision ever by passes Putin .
You must know that Putin runs a Mafia type family simply because he is ex KGB and ex head of the FSB .
You should also know that his big time personal crime record started in St Petersburg in the early nineties when he teamed up with the Tambov gang and effectively ran all the Casinos in the region -- just for starters ... There were other big scams worth billions .
The Tambov gang were one of the most feared organised crime groups on the planet pre Putin , and now that they have centralised themselves , finally smashing the Moscow old guard , their present power is all embracing .
Through this , Putin has buttoned down Russia to the extent that he knows what every person of any standing has for breakfast every day . literally .
Of course there are decent Russians and many more who would love to live honestly .
But it is simply not possible if you want to feed a wife and family and run a car .
This system is impossible to break without a full blooded war .
And that is not going to come any time soon .
However other factors will shift Putin and regardless he will be looking for his best exit strategy now .
There's no point being the wealthiest crook in Europe if you cannot enjoy the loot .

 

That is true of every nation on earth. On top of this fact is every elite of industrialized nations now work together in the form of a global regime, or cartel, or cabal, whatever one wants to call it. Which means any 1 nation tries to up rise, and they not only have to fight their own centralized government, but also all the rest combined supporting. Only with a plethora of nationalist revolutions taking place at once could success be had.

 

Well, ray thank you for the detailed information. Your report really made me jump
That’s right. Most part of our top officials have a business relationship with criminals. And now the things in Russia’ re as bad as or worse than you told^. Also I’ve told before that the corrupt and crime are killing Russia.
However, sometimes crime doesn’t pay.

“Police Detain Suspected Gang Leader
”http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=22777


“A Mobster Trial, and a Flash of a Violent Past
”http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/world/europe/14mobster.html?_r=1


"14 prosecutors have been bribed by a Russian gambling group"
http://www.bestsafecasinos.com/russian-group-bribes-prosecutors-08-02-12.html

Sad but true
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In conclusnion let me summarize what we have discussed so far

 

IMHO: absolutely

 

I could say that Russia has huge problem with adequate people now, and for sure it is result of losing cultural and technical elite. Mostly it is result of their migration to Europe and US.

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It is just not true about killed oppositions.

 

well it is not true, so called dissent parties e.g. PARNAS not really parties in common sense. It is just group of jewish businessmans trying to make many on political intimidation

 

I’m agreed with your statement about mafia. Unfortunately Putin has no "normal" folks, like we are , to assign for government jobs. I could say one thing: If Devil would look whom to take to hell, he should definitely search in Russian government.

 

Enumerate ten of these 'thousands', please or I will report your post as scum and propaganda. I really feel offended that I as citizen of Russia is mixed with (*)(*)(*)(*) just because someone doesn't have another topic to dwell on. And if the moderator or someone refuses to delete it - it will be obvious that paradigma of western existence allow to spread (*)(*)(*)(*) about the whole country and doesn't allow the same towards minor group of people who like to have a different kind of sex comparing to everyone else.

 

The european comission which didn't notice any violations against elections in Russia and made their official report about it consist of more than two or three people.

 

Hey their aim was not to be registered. These guys like Nemtsov and Kasyanov never received more than 3%! Their only chance was not to be registered and then to take the power through sdemonstrations in the streets. They tried to use protests until they were not only ones in the streets. Hopefully you get money for your posts. Otherwise it is just unbelievable stupidity.

 

Because Russian elections are monitored by international organisations and press like almost all elections in Europe . And Europeans do not revolt threaten to take their guns and drive inspectors/press out
In other news did you read that the representative of a third party was arrested for trying to appear in US TV ?

 

neither is the USA, so there's no future for them too?

 

About the presidential candidates who intentionally scuttled their chance to stand for election by not complying with some very clear & reasonable rules I agree entirely.

I think three of them could be paid but then not many people read these forums - not much bang for the buck. Just skim over the more silly posts & have a chuckle.

 

yep the elections are pretty much rigged.

 

I think with the USA the rigging occurs with the selection of presidential candidates so that the election it'self is not so important at the ballet box.

 

My only driver for participating here is to get a better idea of what is that people abroad think of Russia, its people and consequently further - me. For me it is a fresh look out of the box. Nothing else. I understand that the people who are repeating lies do it for free. But these lies were made for money.

 

i really doubt that mods can solve this problem. cause cia and united states department of state control this forum. but there is one good move. just make videoreport and send it to putin or medvedev. if they will not help you send this videoreport to sportloto.
[video=youtube;fo26xfscd00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo26xfscd00[/video]

 

So you don't believe that mods of this forum can do their job?

 

Forget about mods. You should act according to my instructions.