Why are Religions Legal?

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  1. Heretic

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    Bearing False Witness is the core element of every legal system. If we can't depend on people's testimonies, then we can never convict anybody for crimes. We have to trust somebody, eventually. Who do we trust? People tend to trust other people with high, public reputations. But, people can be liars still, even with a high reputation.

    For trust, we need to look deeper. Which type of men are most trustworthy of all men?????? There should be a most honest type of man.
     
  2. Bishadi

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    all fair assessments/inquiries.


    the ones that do it by choice versus fear or force. The 'good' are honest because they care, that much.


    be it a 'moses' figure, confucius, jesus, muhammad, newton or even darwin, most put themselves on the line for what they believed was right in compassion (most cases of contributers to knowledge/mankind).

    the good give............... and to false witness is like telling someone, 'i dont care to be fair'
     
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    Obviously, religious people believe the tenets of their religion, which means they're not "lying." You just personally consider them mistaken. Of course, perhaps you're mistaken about your views of the Universe--does that mean you're lying?

    Not that lying is or should be illegal.
     
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    but to 'witness' the actions of jesus, is false. Each can walk on water, just by freezing it. Keep the lessons, remove the claiming of what could never be seen. No one can claim 'in the beginning' but each can suggest, 'well, in 'x' it renders, y i believe.

    fair is fair.
    Not just mistaken but some is bonafide rude to impose upon another.

    if i am, please show me. I know I can evolve.
    if a person is told his glass of water was not touched, but someone put nasties into it, just before he drank it; are you at all responsible?

    is knowledge absorbed upon a mind?

    can it cause a person to do MORE damage?
     
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    You say it's false. You don't know that. So why is your position more worthy of expression than another person's. You're not asking for free and open debate. You're saying that your right and your opponents are wrong and should be shut down.

    Poisoning someone's drink doesn't merely involve lying. It involves trespassing against them by invading their property and their body without their permission. Do you actually think all lying should be legally penalized? That would be an extraordinarily oppressive violation of free speech, at least until all the politicians were imprisoned for violating it.
     
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    For the same good reason that other psychoses are legal.
     
  7. Bishadi

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    so if i am a head hunter, can i practice my beliefs on you?
     
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    did you see jesus ever say a word?

    yes or no?

    can you represent exactly what any 'god' wants?

    yes or no?

    I asked why religions are legal?

    And the argument is, false witness (lying) is against all of us (loss to the common), as a misleading, can harm more than just the one.

    i ask if YOU witnessed the event "would you" make the action of responsibility and say something? Most already know 'murder' is wrong but few hold onto the personal responsibility to 'witnessing' what is true, as a responsible act and choice.
    i didnt post that.

    I know each are capable to have the integrity, personally, of NOT causing a 'loss to the common' by choice.

    But be certain, i can and am able to judge, just like any others.


    lying aint free speach.

    That is like claiming 'jews' are a race; just a stupid false.
     

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