Why are Trump supporters silent when it comes to Trump?

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Not a single thread from Trump's followers about Trump, and this has been true for several months. Obviously, Trump's fans are afraid to discuss Trump.

    Perhaps this is why.

    "President Trump famously declared during his 2016 campaign that he loved the “poorly educated” because voters with lower levels of schooling delivered an overwhelming share of votes to him," the conservative Washington Times.

    The Times quote explains why we are not hearing from Trump's supporters about Trump.

    CNN reports, "Trump's critics (within and outside his party) on Tuesday seized on the latest Trump tape as a perfect example of why the twice-impeached, twice-indicted former president is unfit to return to the Oval Office.

    "But the recording also explains the former commander in chief’s undimmed appeal to GOP base voters for whom rule breaking that horrifies Washington elites is a major justification for granting him a second term.

    "On the audio, Trump discusses holding a secret document. The conversation from a July 2021 meeting at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club where Trump showed classified information to others who did not have security clearances.

    "Given the extraordinary circumstances in which an indicted ex-president is also the GOP front-runner for 2024, the tape will play a political role separate from its use in Trump’s trial.

    "Trump has put his legal problems at the center of his campaign – portraying himself as an innocent victim of political persecution."

    Note: This plays well with his base because they believe everything he says. Now we get to the crux of the matter.

    CNN continued, "Yet as extraordinary as the latest example of Trump’s mockery of presidential conventions is, it is also likely to provide the umpteenth example of how Trump’s antics – while horrifying to millions of Americans – are unlikely to tarnish him with core GOP voters.

    "In response to the tape, Trump – as he often does – sought to redefine an apparent example of aberrant behavior as perfectly acceptable.

    “I had a whole desk full of lots of papers, mostly newspaper articles, copies of magazines, copies of different plans, copies of stories, having to do with many, many subjects, and what was said was absolutely fine. … We did nothing wrong. This is a whole hoax,” he told Fox News Digital on Tuesday."

    So, according to Trump, when did he lie? At the July 2021 meeting or now?

    Despite the reality of the audio tape, Trump's adoring fans will accept the alternate reality provided by the former President.

    CNN added, "There is plenty of evidence to suggest that the ex-president’s strategy is working politically – at least in a GOP primary.

    "Although his support among Republicans appeared to soften in a CNN poll conducted after his second indictment, he still had a firm lead in the primary field. Furthermore, 54% of Republicans and Republican-leaning voters said Trump’s conduct doesn’t matter much to them as they consider his candidacy, because a president’s effectiveness matters more."

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    Will Trump's silent followers choose our President again as they did in 2016?
     
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  2. Sandy Shanks

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    Now this is funny. Not one response from Republicans.

    What does that say about Republicans, and do they deserve control of the House, Senate, or the Oval Office?
     
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    His base consists almost completely of people that have been taught since a very early age not to question their leaders or their beliefs thanks to grooming of the church.

    In recent years they have also been told they are being replaced, are losing power in their country and that they are the actual victims of the most complex and orchestrated conspiracy ever seen.

    This creates a very hostile but loyal base
     
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    Many of them are SILENT for a reason. Now the left has gotten so crazy they even have their own elected politicians committing acts of vandalism against people with anti-Biden bumper stickers.
    I encourage them to remain silent for their own safety and just speak with their vote.
    Smart people! I also try to avoid the violent eftist mob whenever possible.
     
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    I am not a republican or a trump follower, but I completely understand why people will be voting for him. Its not that he is a great person; its just that the results the left is producing make him look like a better choice by comparison. I am not a fan of either of the elderly sex offenders, but I understand why people vote for them.
     
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    Personal experience tells me violence isn't limited to just leftists.
     
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    Yes, I have been afraid to display a Republican bumper on my car for many years. I worked a long time to afford that car and don't feel like having some political anarchist damage it.

    Oh, no doubt, but you guys commit more than your share.
     
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    I can't understand why anyone would vote for Biden, unless you are getting a paycheck for the Democrat Party or the Federal Government.
     
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    People who backed Trump in the past are feeling ashamed now. Believe me, I voted for Trump against Mrs. Clinton in 2016 and that's the last thing I'd ever want to become known about me. The guy needs to get a clue and retire from politics while he still has some free time before he goes to prison for a long stretch.
     
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    Democrats have good hearts and bad eyesight.
     
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    Because speaking up makes you a target. I mean, look at the shiite that's come our way for the last 6 years. Leftists have become violently irrational and the Deep State only prosecutes one way. Why speak up if you know that's what you'll get.

    In the meantime, Trump's Supreme Court picks seem to be driving y'all nuts and Trump's rally over the weekend drew a reported 50,000 people.

    Y'all just keep on blabbing and shooting yourself in the foot. You apparently don't need any help from us.
     
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    Really! Trump has been criminally indicted twice, and he led a failed attempt to overthrow our elected government on Jan. 6, 2021, and you think he is a better choice for President.

    You claim not to be a Republican.
     
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    So far, there has been nothing, illustrating there is no good reason for Republicans to avoid Trump and the Republican Party in a discussion group other than being unable to justify their political choices.

    This is very strange because Donald Trump is not only the leader of the Republican Party, but is also the leading Republican candidate for the Presidency in the next election.

    To illustrate my meaning this thread is particularly critical of Trump. In the past several months there has been no response from Republicans... none. The thread is entitled:The Era of rivalry, Biden vs. Trump and their respective parties.

    Perhaps, there is the distinct possibility that the forum's Republicans have very little to work with regarding what Republican politicians are saying. They seem to be very foolish at times, or most of the time. Allow me to illustrate.

    Trump has been criminally indicted twice. It would be safe to say, that if he kept his mouth shut, there would not be any criminal indictments. These contradictory quotes both came from Trump.

    “He said that I wanted to attack Iran, Isn’t it amazing? I have a big pile of papers, this thing just came up. Look. This was him. They presented me this – this is off the record but – they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him. These are the papers. This was done by the military and given to me. See as president I could have declassified it. Now I can’t, you know, but this is still a secret.”

    “I had a whole desk full of lots of papers, mostly newspaper articles, copies of magazines, copies of different plans, copies of stories, having to do with many, many subjects, and what was said was absolutely fine. … We did nothing wrong. This is a whole hoax.”

    Does anyone care to talk about Trump concerning classified material and his federal criminal indictment? Yeah, I thought not.

    Ron DeSantis, the current governor of Florida, is a poor second choice among Republicans for the Presidential nominee. He does not speak of it, but, in the face of 61% of Americans who favor the right to an abortion, DeSantis signed a six-week abortion ban. In addition, the Republican candidate for President has declared war on a tiny portion of our population -- the vulnerable, harmless transgender Americans, who obviously have their own problems, and make up 0.6% of our population. Why in the world he is doing this is a mystery, even among Republicans.

    Does anyone care to talk about DeSantis concerning abortion and transgender rights? Yeah, I thought not.

    Mike Pence was Trump's vice-president. Pence is also a Republican candidate for President. Along with Trump, Pence lost reelection in 2020. Pence has admitted to calling governors in states where he lost about their states' election.

    “I did check in, with not only Governor Ducey, but other governors in states that were going through the legal process of reviewing their election results,” Pence said during an interview on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

    Does anyone care to talk about Pence concerning the appropriateness of a losing veep questioning governors of states where he lost? Yeah, I thought not.

    See what I mean? If forum Republicans discuss Republican issues, they will be the laughing stock of the forum.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    As expected, Republicans are avoiding this thread.

    Should these people pick our President, Senators, and representatives?
     
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    What guys is that and how does one decide what a share is....? Do you have any date or comparisons to support you premise?
     
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    I wonder why.

    "President Trump famously declared during his 2016 campaign that he loved the “poorly educated” because voters with lower levels of schooling delivered an overwhelming share of votes to him," the conservative Washington Times.

    The Trump stronghold is the rural south. He proved that again recently as one of his former lawyers finds himself being investigated by Special Counsel Jack Smith.

    The rural folks of South Carolina don't care.

    Politico reports, "Taking over the movie-set-like Main Street of a town of 3,300 in the hills of South Carolina on Saturday, Trump put on a show of force not only in his stronghold of rural America, but in an early primary state where he remains dominant."

    The former President was nowhere to be seen on the July Fourth holiday.

    Meanwhile, as it is business as usual for Trump, John Eastman is in serious trouble. He is hoping Trump is elected President so he could pardon him.

    The Guardian reports, "John Eastman, who was in the vanguard of lawyers plotting schemes involving “fake electors” and other ploys to help Donald Trump thwart Joe Biden’s win in 2020, is now under close scrutiny in federal and state investigations of Trump’s drives to stay in power, and faces possible disbarment in California, say former prosecutors.

    "The former California law professor is one of several lawyers whose legal stratagems have been heavily examined by Special Counsel Jack Smith’s accelerating investigation into Trump and his allies’ efforts to block Biden from taking office.

    "The fake electors' scheme was a central part of Trump’s strategy to reverse his defeat.

    "It was called that because Republican electors in seven key battleground states signed certificates falsely declaring themselves “duly elected and qualified” to affirm Donald Trump won the 2020 election."

    Trump is well on his way to becoming the Republican candidate for President in 2024.

    But you wouldn't know it if one examines Republican responses to all this. There aren't any. They don't want to talk about it.

    Go figure!
     
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    How's that Supreme Court working out for you?

    We don't say anything because it's more fun to listen to you whine.
     
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    Are you blind? Trrump's rhetoric has led to violence of judges, witnesses, juries, pundits, congresspersons, senators, educators, election workers, here are 54 examples uncovered by NBC news, documented:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blame-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story?id=58912889
     
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    If numbers attending an event dictate who should be President, then Taylor Swift beats Trump by 10 million votes ...
     
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    to be fair, sandy, they probably have never heard those stories, and if they have they do not believe "fake news," which is anybody who is not subservient to dear leader.
     
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    Yeah I could not understand the worship of the Cheeto Jesus until I watched a documentary on “Christian” churches in America
     
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    i have not been able to quite figure how the fundies went all in on trump. their preachers are certainly authoritarian and corrupt enough to submit to trumps bribes and probably epstein's videotapes.
     
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    Working out good! Converts a “red wave” into a pee trickle last November
     
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    Which am almost certain Donnie has copies of. There was rumours at the time of Epstein arrest……..
     
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