Why Chris Christie will lose in 2016

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  1. AndrogynousMale

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    Chris could have enjoyed my support until he came out in favor of abrogating the 4th Amendment
    for the sake of security.
    Christie's position produced a new polarity in the GOP. Personal Rights vs Security necessities.
    He should remember his Ben Franklin.

    A Hillary / Christie choice is another ObamNey choice. Except it is a HillIstie choice. :wink:
    If that is the choice, I will definitely vote 3rd Party.


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    Anti RepubloCrat
     
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    Personally I can't stand both sides, but I can't see Christie winning. He's moderate, famous enough but he has some problems.
    1. He's moderate. That won't last very long in the Republican primaries.
    2. Remember when he said he wasn't going to play politics when Superstorm Sandy came in? He basically shoved off Mittens for Obama giving him support. In a race the GOP was supposed to win, that is going to stick with them. It looks like he betrayed party when in fact he was doing the right thing.
     
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    And only this evening I posted about understanding and admiring New Jersey's GOP Gov. Christie's ability to relate to his predominantly Blue State constituency. And as much as I oppose Obama I also appreciate his ability to shmooze Obama in order to better serve the needs of his constituents when his state badly needed as much material and financial support from FEMA as quickly as possible in the post Hurricane period.

    Yet...there's something about how and how much he's kissed up to Obama that jes' don't sit right wit me.
     
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    And only this evening I posted about understanding and admiring New Jersey's GOP Gov. Christie's ability to relate to his predominantly Blue State constituency. And as much as I oppose Obama I also appreciate his ability to shmooze Obama in order to better serve the needs of his constituents when his state badly needed as much material and financial support from FEMA as quickly as possible in the post Hurricane period.

    Yet...there's something about how and how much he's kissed up to Obama that jes' don't sit right wit me.
     
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    Given the febrile factionalism of the GOP, its primary process now serves as an effective prophylactic that prevents electable candidates from advancing. What are the chances of a Chris Christie squeezing through?

    As long as that plight endures, media entertainers will continue to suffice as GOP leadership, a kibitzing elite that wields no political power, blustering shadows on the cave wall in dominion manqué.

    Meanwhile, their bloviating boilerplate will not prove nearly as entertaining as the antics of the political aspirants, the Sturm und Drang of MMXII having proved quite mirthsome, with that frothy grande finale, "Let's all rally 'round Mr Individual Mandate, the WillardCare Man!", thus defusing their anticipated key issue, the President's signature legislation. It was as if the President had recklessly taken the stage for their first debate sporting a purple zoot suit, only to have Willard strut out in a spookily similar tout ensemble, boasting that his was the genuine haute couture, and the Commander's-in-Chief merely a ripped-off replica. Priceless!

    Let's hope the GOP's MMXVI bringers of jollity recapitulate that buffoonery. The media gasbaggers that substitute for actual political leaders are impacting nothing - except anthropogenic climate change, of course, befouling the ether.

    If that Jabbering Hut Limbaugh still hasn't fled to efficient-and-effective single-payer-healthcare Costa Rica as he had assured his dits he would do, he may want to polish up his dazzling footwork.

    The show must go on, and you ain't seen nuthin' yet!

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  7. Tom Joad

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    Chris Christie doesn't have a chance in Hell of getting the GOP nomination:

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  8. fifthofnovember

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    Because a lot of Republicans never even heard of him until they heard he was palling around with Obama. That's what he's most famous for now.
     
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    We had a pretty decent Republican Governor in Charlie Crist.

    But the GOP basically excommunicated him after this:

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    The GOP today is a scary organization.

    They are like the Mafia.

    You step out of line and you get the kiss of death.
     
  10. Lil Mike

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    Crist wasn't excommunicated. He had strong party support and his senate run was endorsed by the NRSC. He just lost the primary, got huffy, and left the party.

    It's called being a sore loser, not being excommunicated.

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    Moderates have been almost the only winners of Republican Primaries. Reagan was the last conservative winner.
     
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    I live in Florida too Dude.

    Lifelong resident.

    Save that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) for the tourists.
     
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    He would lose because the winner in 2016 will be the candidate that gives away government freebies to the most people and groups and that is going to be a Democrat. We just had a Presidential election with a incumbent President that has presided over 4 years of economic woe and has been caught up in many scandals yet he won handily over a Republican candidate who was articulate and moderate down the line. Conclusion. A Republican who tries to win by being a Democrat"ish" candidate will lose. In fact I think a conservative Republican will lose too. The country wants socialism and its wealth re-distribution so that the majority get things free or at a reduced rate. Long gone is the era as during the depression where people felt guilty for taking government relief. Now it is seen as okey dokey.
     
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    When you want to benefit from the King's Court, you have to play by the Kings rules.
     
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    I didn't post anything that was incorrect or you would have posted it. You just don't like it. Sorry, but that's not my problem.
     
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    I could see myself voting for Christie should he run, and if he doesn't go too far right trying to shmooze up votes. I'm not in total agreement with the man by any means, but he's shown himself to be a rational person. I can respect that.
     
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    I enjoy how some radio entertainer teaches the parrots that they lose because most Americans suddenly vote for a presidential candidate that will support policies that accrue to their benefit - as if that has not been the case since 1789.

    Oh, yeah, that's why they lose. [​IMG]







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    You say this just because you would like to see him as the flawed Republican candidate that you can make fun of for being fat and a loud mouth and so that your Democrat candidate will beat him as you will certainly not vote for Christi anyway.

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    Well its just that people used to think individualism was in their best interests and now the majority see taking from those with, to give to those with a need, as the thing that benefits them.
     
  18. Junkieturtle

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    That's not why I said it at all. I didn't even vote Democrat in the last election.
     
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    OK I'll bite. Who did you vote for in the last election?
     
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    Gary Johnson.
     
  21. justoneman

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    I just wonder, is the legalization of marijuana a big issue with you?
     
  22. Junkieturtle

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    Not at all. I'm not even sure I agree with it, to the point that it would be sold in stores anyway. Maybe decriminalization for personal possession. It's not something people should be spending years in prison for.

    And besides that, if legalization was my goal, I'd be voting for Ron Paul with the other potheads. ;)
     
  23. justoneman

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    OK just checking. There seems to be two types of Libertarian. One that is a conservative that is for a doctrine of Liberty of individuals and one that is a big time Lefty who wants pot legalized.
     
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    I don't really consider myself a libertarian either. Honestly, I think there are good ideas in most of the political ideologies, and I'm for taking a practical approach to each issue. The problem with confining yourself to a single ideology is that every problem starts looking the same. If your only tool is a hammer, your problems tend to look like nails.

    I have lefty views, I have some righty views, I have some libertarian views, I have some socialist views.

    Voted for Gary Johnson because I wasn't happy with Obama, not going to vote Republican, and I don't much care for Ron Paul.
     
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    I would not support christie.
     

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