Why did nobody tell Trump that it would be a bad idea to get Ukraine to investigate Biden?

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  1. DaveBN

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    First, I never indicated any of those news sources had a right of center lean. As stated multiple times I issued a challenge to cite sources with no more than a right or left of center political bent, with AP being a gold standard with no apparent political leanings.
    Secondly, I did source my claims here:
    If you’d like to provide evidence that their reporting is biased in one way or another, be my guest. Note, “everybody knows” evidence will be disregarded as lazy and unfounded.

    Lastly, if you are going to inject yourself into a conversation, it would serve you well to read previous posts before claiming what a poster has or hasn’t said. You’ve clearly only read the posts you quoted.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it was a great idea to leverage the Ukraine into investigating Biden. If there was corruption, lets dig it out. Dems are just pissed because Trump was getting dirt on their boy, biden. And, of course, they are still pissed they lost the election.

    I have zero problem with using a foreign nation to investigate this. Does using the ukraine somehow make biden less guilty if anything was discovered? nope.
     
  3. Bowerbird

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    If it had simply been that then there would be no impeachment

    No one is claiming that Biden might be innocent, although why he would want to have the guy fired that stopped an inquiry into the firm that hired his son I am not too sure.....
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    If it were an action sanctioned by the congress or the senate then yes

    Acting unilaterally

    No
     
  5. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree. I see no reason why the president shouldn't be able to unilaterally do this, besides it would give dems a chance to block the investigation.
     
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    The way the laws are set up, Biden and his son did nothing wrong
     
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    Trump started out with a pretty capable crew when it came to foreign affairs, but he fired them all or forced them to quit. Trump preferred sycophants, lackeys, yes men, because he can't stand to have someone question his illogical beliefs. So, now our government is left with people like Pence, Mulvaney, Pompeo, Mnuchin, Barr, Jared, and Ivanka.

    As a consequence, Trump is being impeached because he asked for foreign interference in our Presidential election to benefit his reelection campaign and extorted a foreign leader to get what he wanted. No one was around to impress upon him that was a really stupid idea.

    Ain't life grand?
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    Let's recap shall we?

    Trump blew the whistle on corruption and now the establishment wants to assassinate him over it.
     
  9. dairyair

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    I thought someone did. Told him that conspiracy theory died. Pompeo? Mulvaney?

    But Rudy convinced tRUMP otherwise. Although, it didn't take much convincing, IMO.
     
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    Hypocrites, don't even know they're being hypocritical.

    Hmmm, who's trying to negotiate a ME peace deal with no experience?
     
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    A tRUMPer just told me basically this very thing.
    What is wrong with committing crimes.
     
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    The problem being...?
    When acting in his official capacity as President, he cannot possibly do otherwise. You're welcome.
     
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    Yep, same junk source, as bad as Snopes or the other "fact checking" shams:

    "NPR typically sources their information to credible sources such as the Washington Post, maristpoll.marist.edu, ohchr.org, The Economist, UNICEF, New York Times and many more."

    LOL "credible sources," pure drivel and no amount of "fact checking" flimflam can hide that from the public any more. NPR is decidedly left as are BBC and WAPO, The Economist, BBC, NYT AND AP, one of the worst culprits, full of 24 y.o. FAR left Columbia Journalism grads.

    The Left, always denying what it is, always calling anything Right of pure collectivism "far right." Never changes. Used to fool people, not in the net age.
     
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    And if not...invent it to make it easier to get Trump re-elected.

    Got it....

    There was no corruption.

    Biden was not under investigation when Joe got the corrupt prosecutor Shokin removed, nor was Burisma
     
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    Because nobody is above the law. Besides, the law would have been broken in Ukraine, therefore their laws would be used to put them behind bars in a Ukraine prison.

    This whole impeachment thing would have happened regardless, so it doesn't matter what reason the democrats give.
     
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    Same reason no one Told Obama it would be a bad idea to get the Ukrainians to investigate Manifort.
     
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    If there was nothing, how exactly does that get him reelected?? It's not like the investigation was broadcasted until the dems started making a mountain out of a molehill. All this is is dems trying to keep their crimes covered up.
     
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    Sure he can. He can act through his personal attorney, which is shady as all hell.
    “Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.”
    -Some guy who got impeached.
     
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    So your argument is lacking. All you’ve done is said NPR cites XYZ sources and made an “everyone knows” argument. You’re dismissed.
     
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    why is that shady? Politicians use personal agents for **** all the time.
     
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    Do they?
     
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    Yes
     
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    Tell me that you're not defending Manafort now

    He was convicted by a jury that had MAGA types on it.

    In fact Trump held up a shipment of Javelin missiles to UIkraine in order to force them to drop the "Black Ledger" investigation that implicated Manafort.

    He got convicted here anyway...but Trump always goes back to the well. If it worked once, he'll do it again
     
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    Sure! I am sure you would have been fine with GWB and Cheney being arrested in Iraq for war crimes and approving of torture.
     
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    In DC are you kidding? Maga types on a DC jury? Next you'LL tell me chickens have teeth, that's right there was one and she wanted to acquit.
     

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