Why did nobody tell Trump that it would be a bad idea to get Ukraine to investigate Biden?

I’ve provided citation for my claims as to the bias, or lack there of, of the news media in my posts. Feel free to provide any evidence of their political leanings one way or the other. If any of the Joe Biden/Ukraine/Burisma claims were true, something would have been reported. Instead everything points to him acting on behalf of the majority of the western world.

 

So NIPR is not secured since it's accessible by non-secured devices, which is not true on SIPRnet.

Which, of course, is why you respond "This is an unsecure line" on NIPRnet.

Thanks.

 

Burisma Indictment Reveals Ex-President Yanukovich Illegally Obtained $7.4 Billion Laundered Thru Fund "Close to US Democratic Party". Now you know why the dem clown show is so desperate.

 

Questionable, yes. Hence the hearings. Running for office doesn’t put them off-limits to anyone other than those who would use official government actions that are not in the interests of the state.

 

No not at all. I’m sure Burisma hires him with the intent of gaining access to Biden. It’s not been established that it was successful.

 

Why would the progressive media report it?

 

Sure.

 

Then usage of NIPR is, by definition, a nonsecure line.

How much "official business" happened on NIPR?

Was US policy compromised as a result?

 

So in your world this hunter gets a job in Ukraine with out his dad knowing about it?

Oh come on he got kicked out of the navy, he admits he is a drunk and cocaine addict.

Most of them end up in a homeless shelter in Lakeland Florida.

 

I don’t imagine any news outlet with an extreme political bent would report information counter to their political agendas. That’s why I don’t seek news from them, nor did I cite any.

 

Depends on the nature of the business.

 

Non classified.

 

It's not.

 

As far as I know Joe was aware of Hunter’s association of Burisma. What has not been established is if Burisma gained any access to Joe Biden as a result.

 

It's also a very good thing the Twitter / Cable news media complex has such a flawless record in proclaiming Trump-related events to be shocking, game-changing bombshells: otherwise skepticism might be in order...

 

Under those conditions I suppose not.

 

So if the POTUS called you on an unsecure NIPRnet discussing non-classified information US policy would not be jeopardized and you could not ignore his request.

We took the long way to get there but here we are.

 

We certainly did. Thanks for the ride.

Assuming I was in a role beholden to the President, yes. I’d be obligated to follow his orders.
Was this a round about way to prove Gulliani is an official channel of communication?

 

Asking a foreign nation to investigate your political rival is bad. Extorting a Foreign Nation in order to get a public statement on an investigation of your political rival is criminal and unpatriotic and Impeachable.

 

You mean like being in the military or working for the executive branch.

In general or specific regarding Rudy, I don't know specifically.

 

I haven’t done either for more than a year.

 

Biden is just the entrance to the rabbit hole that is Burisma. Burisma seemingly is owned by Privat Group, with Ihor (Igor)Kolomoisky at its head. Now Kolomoisky left the country during Poroshenko's term (Poroshenko's government nationalized Privat Bank)and only recently returned as the benefactor of Ukraine's new president. Now Ukraine has stated that it will not investigate until after the US elections.

As for benefits? Ukraine has received billions from the IMF, which went against its own rules in lending the money, much of which disappeared, yet it kept approving more tranches. Which of its own rules did it ignore? Firstly, it lent more than is allowed due to Ukraine's financial balance sheet (like 8 times more). Secondly, it lent money to Ukraine while it is engaged in a civil war, also against IMF rules. We all know who is the largest stakeholder and controls the IMF (the US).

So there are the benefits. It's a hot mess and one that likely will never be unraveled. Yet Trump is the bad guy in all this. Go figure.

 

Biden's rivals are democrats

 

The IMF is run by its 189 member nations. I can’t find anything indicating the US holds any more sway over its actions than another. Where did you find that?

 

It seems obvious that this is far more a political thing than an offense. It's not a question of yes men, it's a question of loyalty to your job. IF you wind up in a Trump administration, you have an obligation to quit if you can't support that administration- and sabotaging it IS NOT an appropriate alternative. From the words of the left, Trump has failed to do what advisors told him to do, and that is somehow fundamentally wrong.
IF the president is only going to follow the instructions of career bureaucrats, why do we have a president at all? Advisors are there share points of view, not dictate decisions or actions.

Trump was elected for a change to the status quo, where everything has been publicly touted as the best we can do, when the results have been terrible. That is the "swamp", including the net of regulations that has grown to the point it's beginning to exceed the ability of people to cope with them- and especially when they are ambiguous, and literally nobody can avoid violating some rule or law in some way, and still be actively doing anything. Regulations and policies have a major downside, in that the more complex they get, the more loopholes are available to those who write them or their cronies. Lots of our laws have been been stuffed with small paragraphs, often totally unrelated, written in such a way to do just that as political favors.

I've been watching some of today's hearings, and I'm thinking that the democrats, particularly Schiff, somehow missed their rabies shots and are no longer mentally stable. I see dems acting in lockstep, literally afraid to step outside the narrative and think for themselves- and that is sad. Intimidation within their own party is widespread.

I want government to cut the endless BS, the bickering over things that don't make a difference, and do the job they are supposed to do. That has been a free ride for a great many of them for decades- and they are not going to like the new boss that comes in and says that we are going to function differently, and actually deliver.

Aside from procedural ideologies- Anyone with a functioning and logical mind would have looked at the Biden, Hunter & Burisma thing and smelled corruption. The US cannot run an investigation in the Ukraine, and it would be more than reasonable for a president to request that the nation involved look into it. When policy can be used to protect a politician from suspicion or examination of their actions, it undermines the basic concepts of right and wrong- and it can't be one-sided as the dems think it should be.

There will be no impeachment. Come voting time- there may or may not be some dems who will say they have had enough and vote against, but when it goes to the senate, it will be DOA. So it's a show put on to smear- which is all that dems have done since Trump announced his candidacy. Impeachment was planned by some before the election, and that should be enough to tell us that it's totally partisan and totally dishonorable.