Why did Stalin kill gays?

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  1. mutmekep

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    Seeking logic behind any of Stalin's acts can drive you nuts, Stalin was insane and he even killed his comrades .
     
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    Another troll thread from someone who wants to justify his bigotry.....
     
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    The whole system was insane. He killed his favorite killer Nicolai Ivanovich Yezhov for example because he was 'gay'. Nicolai Ivanovich Yezhov was not gay - but no one cared. That's the very big problem of all tyrannies: always no one cares on nothing because it is damned dangerous to do something in a tyranny without touching one of the deadly snares in the endless carpets of woven senselessness.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fxkHGZZsis
     
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    All true, but then reading the bible is a way to find justification for whatever you may want to do.
     
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    Homosexual intercourse is of selfishness. It aint Love

    Loving someone does not require sex.

    That's it!
     
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    >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<< you are really pushing this lie that "homophobia" is strictly a religious opinion. That's as dishonest as saying that "racism" is only about skin color.

    Besides, just like even Stalin cared about, the Hebrew patriarchs were interested in protecting their society from decadence. That's why they made up a Leviticus commandment to make sure that the people would be afraid to give into that temptation.
     
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    Another Netwit fallacy. How do you know a used-car salesman is trying to cheat you? If you really believed in your fallacy, you'd never play cards because you would have to think that you couldn't tell what is in the minds of the other players.
     
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    Do you have anything to back up your claim? Because I can show you links to Christian Dominionists and Reconstructionists who most definitely do want gays to be put to death.

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    In America, anti-gay beliefs correlates highly with religiosity, as I stated.

    In fact, when you look at rates of secularism or atheism and try to correlate them with anti-gay beliefs, there is no statistical significance between the two.
     
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    He modernized the Russian economy, defeated the Nazis, tricked FDR into helping him, conquered Eastern Europe, and created a military superpower. It is very dangerous to think that our enemies are insane, which is a step below stupid. Stalin was an evil genius, just like some of our Bankensteins.
     
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    Because a lot of the communist ideology he followed was based heavily in Marx, and Marx was less than pleasant to religion in his writings. Additionally, the church provided a competing power to the state, and in communist Russia, the state was, well, the only legitimate power. Anything else had to be eradicated.

    Well, there are a lot of churches and pastors that preach that homosexuality is immoral and/or sinful, and many who also preach that it can be "cured". I will admit I don't have any actual figures on how many, but examples? There are tons of them. Virtually every noteworthy anti-gay association in the USA save perhaps NARTH is christian in nature, and most of them appeal to the bible. The list of homosexuals attacked by people coming from religious viewpoints is massive; the list from secular sources virtually non-existent. It's certainly a lot rarer to find a homophobic atheist than a homophobic christian.
     
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    No idea what "Christian Dominionists and Reconstructionists" could be.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7vLOjzG4no
     
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    They are both groups of Christian Theocrats who want the law to be entirely based on the Bible. Part of their platform is a death penalty for gays.

    They are Christians who want gays to be put to death.
     
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    You should stop flinging about the word hate. As an atheist I find male homosexuality repulsive, which has nothing to do with religion or deities. I don't hate excrement...but if I see someone eating it, I am repulsed. See the difference?

    I have read the bible and the koran.
     
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    Why would it be up to atheists to explain it? You're the one who seems to think there's some kind of unified atheist agenda. You tell me :lol:

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    It would be harder to justify that hatred or any violent repression of homosexuality, however. When you have some sort of god on your side, that tends to make things much easier.
     
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    (1) I don't know what a "Christian Theocrat" is.
    (2) Nearly all Christians worldwide are against every form of death penalty.
    (3) And still I don't know what "Christian Dominionists and Reconstructionists" could be.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xN-bgcjp0g
     
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    1) Christian Theocrats are exactly that: Christian who want a Theocracy (religion based government).

    2) You clearly don't know anything about American Christians. They are on the side of the death penalty for the most part.

    3) Christian Dominionists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_theology

    Reconstructionists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstructionism

    But really, all of this is pointless unless you are willing to admit that you were completely wrong when you claimed that there are no Christians who support the death penalty for gays. Are you willing to admit you are wrong?
     
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    (1) It's not a figure of speech or proper name. Understand the two words independently and you will understand what the phrase means.
    (2) This is simply incorrect. I suspect you are actually thinking primarily of European Christians rather than worldwide.
    (3) It's a shame he wasn't able to explain to you in terms you understand. At least he tried, and didn't just post 'no comment'.
     
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    Stalin was a patriarch.
    He was suppressing the Feminism that can invent a second currency using sexual favors for gaining materially in a society.

    Stalin knew that Gays are promoters of sexual promiscuity which justifies their on behaviors in such a culture, and raises up the matriarchy of women who will fight the instinctual Homophobia of the men, making it Politically Incorrect to repress Gayness.

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    In support of what I say about these patriarchs that are dictators that arise when sexual promiscuity has destroyed a nation Hitler did exactly the same thing, immediately, when he came into power.
     
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    Stalin beaten the nazis ? no he did not , Russian winter & psych did and the incompetence of Hitler .
    Modernized the economy ? any non economist can modernize an economy.
    He didn't conquer anything, it was given to him in Yalta .
    USSR was a vast country , do you know any superpower the size of Croatia?
    Stalin was indeed insane .
     
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    What do you understand in the USA under "religion based government"? Atheism?

    I am not an American but a German. The two big christian confessions in my country - Catholics and Lutherans - are against death penalty. Catholics and Lutherans (Protestants) are also a very big group of Christians in the USA. So I'm not sure what you really know about the positions of the Christians in the USA.

    Makes this any sense?

    No Christian "supports" (whatever this could be in this context) death penalty for gays.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyfCTZB6Nrk
     
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    I'm an American who has lived in either München or der Hallertau for the last 8 years, and I can say with a lot of confidence that the American versions of the Christian denominations are REALLY different from the German versions in their political viewpoints.
     

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