Why do Democrats move to red states and vote Democrat?

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  1. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still benefiting from Republican policies...

    There are plenty of cities in Democrat run high tax states.
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Population change and state migration are two different things.

    One of the major cities (maybe New York , maybe Chicago, not sure) only had a population gain through immigration. Without it, the population would have decreased because people were moving to other states so quickly and there weren't enough births to keep up.
     
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    At some point, the stench of the crap in the streets, the ever increasing numbers of 3rd world hostile aliens,,the increasing taxation to pay for those hostile alens, the insanity of college leftwing kooks and Antifa, and the increase in violent crime, vandalism, outright anarchy, is enough to motivate the Demo Socialists to seek safer places to restart their failed Marxist Welfare policies..
     
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    It's amazing that colorado and oregon, two liberal "shitholes" have some of the largest influxes of population from other states. I don't think your theory holds that people are moving from blue to red states, just that people are moving for the same reasons they always have, and that is mostly opportunity.

    I find it funny how you fail to mention all the red states with negative net migration rates. Where do you think all those people are moving?
     
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    I disagree. Seems a lot of disenfranchised ex-Maryland conservatives moved just across the border to York co PA. I am one of them. Southern York co typically votes about 75% for the GOP.
     
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    I have yet to see you produce anything to debunk what I said. If you can't comprehend the links and what they are saying. That falls on you. As its clear you are arguing from a disadvantage. As you can't change up the reality as to why People are breaking to red states.

    First you tried the lame excuse about Taxes. Then got smoked over that useless excuse.

    Your limitation falls upon yourself.

    You were given the knowledge to increase the little you had. Yet you still can't filter it down and move the goalposts repeatedly.

    Don't worry I understand that you as a leftist just can't handle being wrong. I get that. But I don't care if you stay in ignorance.

    At least be honest about the truth. See if you can handle that first when trying to debate what you don't know.
     
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    They come to red States for the quality of life they lost in blue states
     
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    The progress is undeniable, even in Texas.

    In an increasingly racially and ethnically diverse nation, with younger voters and better-educated suburbanites, especially women who have been motivated by the P-Grabber, aligning with one Party, it's not difficult to see the fate of the other.
     
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    The poorer, less-educated red states are clearly the beneficiaries. A surfeit of talent motivates migration, and that newly-infused talent creates opportunities.
    Americans who have become used to better school systems, medical care, and other quality-of-life indexes are not about to passively retrogress.
     
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    Unfortunately along with money they bring political philosophy that made their previous blue state uninhabitable.
     
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    When and if you can actually post anything to support your silly assumption that liberals are moving to red states because of the lower cost of living I will admit you are correct. Of course since I have posted data that shows you are wrong that day may be a long time coming.

    But feel free to give the post where I made the lame excuse about taxes. Or could you be making things up one more time. I will wait patiently for the post number.

    Oh and here is a bit more actusl data for you!

    https://www.bea.gov/system/files/qgdpstate0718_0.png
     
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    Funny that the biggest migration is out of Wyoming which is a solid Republican state. And guess which has the next biggest loss. And yes Alaska is also Republican . Got to go all the way down to third before hitting a Democratic state.
     
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    Too late Jester.....your usual, I have already received word and the kudos for displaying that you didn't have a clue as to what you were talking about.

    Better luck next time.....oh and do read those links and all of my posts in this thread(Not your pick and choose) Then you will be informed.
     
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    LMAO.


    New York is No. 1 in losing residents who move to other ...
    www.nydailynews.com/news/.../n-y-no-1-losing-residents-move-states...
    Dec 20, 2017 · If the trend continues, New York is in jeopardy of losing at least one more congressional seat. The state once boasted 45 congressional members and currently has 27.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Gee not according to the posted map that started the thread. Of course you probably don't understand the difference between percentage and absolute numbers. Oh, and here is a quote from your article:

    " Overall New York's population grew in 2016-17 to 19.85 million, up just 13,113 from 2015-16."

    I know the word " grew" is complicated but do try.
     
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    It's cold there. Folks looking for handouts can't deal with it and leave.
     
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    If by "uninhabitable" you mean achieving superior income, educational, medical, and general quality-of-life standards, you are correct.

    The surfeit of skilled folks that occasions relocation benefits the communities to which they contribute.
     
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    Exactly. That's why the migration is by Republicans.
     
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    The state once boasted 45 congressional members and currently has 27.....snip~

    It appears you can't discern the reality. Lets us know when Wyoming ever had 45 Congressional Members based on population. :roflol:
     
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    If liberal policies make blue states more livable why are citizens of those states fleeing to red states and if conservative policies are so bad why are red States so attractive to those fleeing blue states? The answer is red states are more livable because conservative policies make them that way.
     
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    My observation is that in my state, we are getting a lot of migrants from CA as they "flee" the disintegrating state. Unfortunately, they don't feel that once here, they have any obligation to "fit in". They feel entitled to act just as indifferently as they did in their native California.

    Truly, it is annoying. More, they foist their stupid expectations on the cities, demanding that suddenly things that no one here ever wanted become the highest priorities because, well they moved here. So bike lanes have sprung up everywhere. Why? No one rides bikes here, and frankly the roads weren't designed to make reserved lanes available to them. Why? Because the folks moving from CA want to ride bikes. I get a laugh you know, when, like today, the weather blows, it's cold, and no one is riding bikes at all. Seems like such a waste of public money.

    Also, suddenly, CA immigrants all seem to want to clamor for more taxes, a state income tax, and a host of other restrictive BS. Why? Because it's what they know. It's how they fund all their stupid and demand all others just roll over for them.
     
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    Sorry but too ignorant. All that means is NY is growing less slowly than other states. You should just stop proving your cluelessness.

    So far you haven't managed to prove that NY is losing population nor have you shown that the people moving are Democrats. Really sad but I expect no less from a Trumpie.
     
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    No need to explain yourself. Growing less slowly doesn't have anything to do with losing residents/Population. :laughing:

    New York is No. 1 in losing residents who move to other ...
     
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    And to make you look even more foolish the population loss in NY is from the rural Republican areas not from the Democratic part of the state.
     
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    Usually never is this the case, hence the 3-1 difference in the state demographics. But hey, you tried... right? Sorry, no participation trophy to hand to you though...
     
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